[C2] Issue with windshield rubber
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Issue with windshield rubber
My '63 coupe was not exactly fun to drive in the rain, as the water came in over the dash...
That's why I decided to replace the rubber and seal it properly. At least, that was my idea...
So I ordered new molding clips from Paragon, windshield rubber from CorvetteRubber and bought a rope to get the windshield in again.
Windshield went out without a problem. apparently, no sealant was used, so it was all clean. I decided to use sealant to make sure it was watertight. I wrapped the new rubber around the windshield. It seemed a bit loose on the bottom, but maybe that's normal?
When we tried to put it back in (bottom first), the rubber would hit the roof on the upper corners. No matter what we tried, we couldn't get the rubber to lay down on the body edge so there was no use trying to pull the rope.
Eventually, I called in some help and they put the rubber in first, and then the glass. This worked, although the rubber stayed 'open' on the bottom.
Long story short:
Good news: no rust found
bad news: windshield leaks even more then it did before
What did I do wrong? I want to order new rubber and try again, but I'm worried I'll run in to the same problem of not getting the windshield + rubber to lay down properly on that edge...
That's why I decided to replace the rubber and seal it properly. At least, that was my idea...
So I ordered new molding clips from Paragon, windshield rubber from CorvetteRubber and bought a rope to get the windshield in again.
Windshield went out without a problem. apparently, no sealant was used, so it was all clean. I decided to use sealant to make sure it was watertight. I wrapped the new rubber around the windshield. It seemed a bit loose on the bottom, but maybe that's normal?
When we tried to put it back in (bottom first), the rubber would hit the roof on the upper corners. No matter what we tried, we couldn't get the rubber to lay down on the body edge so there was no use trying to pull the rope.
Eventually, I called in some help and they put the rubber in first, and then the glass. This worked, although the rubber stayed 'open' on the bottom.
Long story short:
Good news: no rust found
bad news: windshield leaks even more then it did before
What did I do wrong? I want to order new rubber and try again, but I'm worried I'll run in to the same problem of not getting the windshield + rubber to lay down properly on that edge...
#2
Did you try installing the trims and maybe your glass could be off center to cause the leak? Also the final step of adding the sealant between gasket and glass?
Here is a video regarding the string installation with a Mustang. It's pretty good and helped me.
http://www.bing.com/videos/search?q=...35&FORM=VRDGAR
Also this web page was very helpful:
http://www.stl-vettes.com/65Vette/wi...windshield.htm
Be sure to have a the good windshield suction cup tool to shift the glass after you have pulled the string. You should be able to slightly shift the windshield when floating in the gasket after pulling the rope and mounted. The small shift in the glass helps in getting the trims installed.
I used a thinner rope like twine and a lot of white grease. Also sprayed the lot of soapy liquid like 409 on the gasket during the installation. Also don't make the mistake of having the rope pull start from the top. I recall reading about putting the gasket in the sun helped.
I clean off the surface rust and brushed on some black rustoleum paint to be safe.
I didn't do a leak test and added sealant between glass and gasket. I was happy to have the everything installed with the trims. The sealant is a pain to clean off and installing the trims was toughest task.
My issues were with the trim clips had failed and my trims were popping off and the only way to repair the bad clips was to remove the windshield.
Good luck...
Irwin
Here is a video regarding the string installation with a Mustang. It's pretty good and helped me.
http://www.bing.com/videos/search?q=...35&FORM=VRDGAR
Also this web page was very helpful:
http://www.stl-vettes.com/65Vette/wi...windshield.htm
Be sure to have a the good windshield suction cup tool to shift the glass after you have pulled the string. You should be able to slightly shift the windshield when floating in the gasket after pulling the rope and mounted. The small shift in the glass helps in getting the trims installed.
I used a thinner rope like twine and a lot of white grease. Also sprayed the lot of soapy liquid like 409 on the gasket during the installation. Also don't make the mistake of having the rope pull start from the top. I recall reading about putting the gasket in the sun helped.
I clean off the surface rust and brushed on some black rustoleum paint to be safe.
I didn't do a leak test and added sealant between glass and gasket. I was happy to have the everything installed with the trims. The sealant is a pain to clean off and installing the trims was toughest task.
My issues were with the trim clips had failed and my trims were popping off and the only way to repair the bad clips was to remove the windshield.
Good luck...
Irwin
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GKO777 (06-18-2016)
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When we install a windshield before any moldings go on we put between the windshield and the glass what is called "Auto Bedding Compound". Our shop nick name is "No Dry" because the stuff never dries. Once we put this under the weatherstrip between the glass and then we put it under the rubber between the channel. It comes in a caulk tube and is easy to install. If you do this it'll stop leaking without buying another weatherstrip.
You'll just have to remove the windshield moldings again so you can get the rubber elevated enough to place it in there. And tape off the windshield because this stuff is a bear to clean up so tape off about 4" past the windshield gasket and around your car as well. You should be able to find this at your local parts store.... or 3m dealer.. if not, I've posted a link below to the cheapest I found on the net.
http://www.afterhoursautoparts.com/3...xWYaAkay8P8HAQ
Willcox
You'll just have to remove the windshield moldings again so you can get the rubber elevated enough to place it in there. And tape off the windshield because this stuff is a bear to clean up so tape off about 4" past the windshield gasket and around your car as well. You should be able to find this at your local parts store.... or 3m dealer.. if not, I've posted a link below to the cheapest I found on the net.
http://www.afterhoursautoparts.com/3...xWYaAkay8P8HAQ
Willcox
Last edited by Willcox Corvette; 06-19-2016 at 06:48 PM.
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GKO777 (06-21-2016)
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Thanks for the replies, but I'm still confused why I wasn't able to get the windshield with the rubber to lay down on the body edge properly. No matter what I tried, it simply didn't fit in the opening.
Nobody experienced this issue before?
Nobody experienced this issue before?
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It takes a lot of pushing on the glass and twisting of the rubber to get it all to sit flat on the glass and in the body. It is hard to explain. One hand inside the car the other outside and twist rubber into position.
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Irwin
I hope you didn't apply and sealer between the glass and gasket before installing the gasket and windshield. This is done after the glass/gasket and trims are installed.
My gasket and clips were purchased from LI because I didn't want to take any chances with the installation.
Irwin