more starter help uuggh
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more starter help uuggh
uuggh, I was going to put a new starter in, but my buddys lift is tied up for a few weeks, so my wife books my car for a wedding, ( its a long story) this Sat, so I bite the bullet and take it to a local mechanic, we live rural, so the choice is between dumb and dumber, but I figure its just a starter , what could go wrong , it takes the guy 2 hrs and now the starter fires intermittently , sometimes it cranks, sometimes nothing, guys says he bench tested it and it works,
any ideas on what could be wrong?? he says wires are tight, I am so friggin pissed
65 327 roadster
any ideas on what could be wrong?? he says wires are tight, I am so friggin pissed
65 327 roadster
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Start by making sure the tight cables are CLEAN and check the actual connectors. Next, if it's not a Delco rebuilt unit, the quality of the rebuild (solenoid in particular) may be in question. Dennis
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When it sometime doesn't fire did you check with a test light to see if there is power getting there?
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Just for fun, check the red wire that goes to through your firewall. It feeds the starter circuit through the switch. Much has been posted about this. Good luck. Jerry
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Why were you going to change the starter in the first place (what issues were you having that led you to do that)?
If the same issue before and after, it probably is not the starter........
Plasticman
If the same issue before and after, it probably is not the starter........
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What Plasticman said. I know I've never changed a starter just for the hell of it.
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Guess I'm old school; just have the bride and groom push the car at the wedding and pop the clutch and it'll start; you can drive them around afterwards and it'll make a great story and pics for the wedding album.
I'm just sayin'
I'm just sayin'
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thanks for the help I swapped the whole starter
thanks for the help I swapped the whole starter, figured the part was cheap, the old one was occasionally making a grinding sound, so I was worried about the flywheel and potential reliability issues in the future, now the starter only occasionally cranks and is mostly dead, the new starter seems very strong when it does crank, so it would seem hard to believe its an intermittent solenoid problem, I hope the idiot didnt disconnect some wiring
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could it be my ignition switch??
could it be my ignition switch?? if I keep turning the key eventually it fires, if the starter solenoid was bad I doubt it would fire at all, any ideas?
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It could easily be the switch, or the wire that goes from the switch to the starter solenoid. A very common problem on early GTO's. Most 'no click, no start' issues lead back to high resistance in this wire. You will need a DVOM and some diagnostic skills to perform some voltage drop tests on the circuit. If out of your comfort zone, a competent mechanic. Could be the new starter, but you have to determine if you are getting enough current TO the starter before you condemn it. The circuit provides the current. A lot of old wiring will have enough resistance to pass voltage, but won't carry the current needed to activate the solenoid or other load.
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OP hasn't addressed question posed in post #5 yet. Sounds like a bad solenoid to me
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I am going to swap the ignition key switch 1st and see
see if that works,
does anyone know where to get the the electrical starter switch behind the key? no one seems to carry one for a 65?
does anyone know where to get the the electrical starter switch behind the key? no one seems to carry one for a 65?
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If you jump the starter at the solenoid next time it doesn't crank, and it cranks, you can eliminate the starter and solenoid and go after the switch/wiring. Easy, bulletproof test to do.
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Check the spade connector on the ignition switch, if it's loose [common problem ] disassemble the switch, re-stake the connector and clean the internal contacts, its an easy fix
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If the starter worked ok, but was making a little noise I would check the wires at the starter.
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