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Old 12-03-2016, 11:13 PM
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I don't know what brand these wheels are but I don't care for them. I'm going to replace them with American Mags.

My question is: my wheel studs just barely come out of these wheels and the lug nuts have to reach inside to enable a good inch of contact area. Is this because of the style of wheel or are Corvette wheel studs pretty small, short, normally?

My Porsche had a similar problem and I replaced all the studs with the next longer size.
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Old 12-03-2016, 11:19 PM
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Those look like Anson wheels...thick mounting area...

My stock 66 studs stick out from hub about 1" +/- enough for a steel wheel..when torqued there is about 1/8" sticking out of the lug nut..
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Most of that style of wheel have the deep shoulder type lug nuts that go into the wheel quite a bit and the special nuts that are extra deep to be able to use the stock studs. They should be good for most wheels you might choose. BTW.... what are you thinking about running?

Those classic slots on your car are becoming very desirable to the nostalgia crowd by the way, especially good quality ones like that. Polished.....they come up like chrome.

I like the flares on your car, they suit it....very retro looking. Even aftermarket sidepipes from days gone by!


















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You may need longer studs. You normally want at least two or three threads showing when the wheel is tightened down.

"The Southern California Timing Association, which governs the racing at Bonneville, requires at least 5/8 inch of thread engagement. The SCTA also prohibits the use of closed-end lug nuts."

That may be a little much but you get the idea. Some people suggest that the length of the threads showing should be equal to the diameter of the stud. In other words if you have a 7/16" stud then you should have 7/16" show past the lug nut.

Here's more on nuts and bolts

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Going to replace them with American Mags.
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Oh! I'll know for sure when I get the wheels. I had to get the longer studs for my Porsche and it was a pain to get the old ones out of a 40 year old car.
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Originally Posted by kolsen911
Going to replace them with American Mags.
I m interested in them. Please PM me when you have them ready to sell.

Thanks
Jay

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Originally Posted by rfn026
Some people suggest that the length of the threads showing should be equal to the diameter of the stud. In other words if you have a 7/16" stud then you should have 7/16" show past the lug nut.
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I fail to see how any number of threads showing "past the lug nut" helps in any way. I suspect the correct guidance is to engage as least the same length of threads as the diameter of the bolt. So if you want to put a nut on a 7/16" bolt, there should be at least 7/16" of bolt available for the nut to engage. If the nut is thicker than the diameter of the bolt, then it would be nice to have at least as much bolt available as the nut is thick. All this IMHO.
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Originally Posted by kellsdad
I fail to see how any number of threads showing "past the lug nut" helps in any way. I suspect the correct guidance is to engage as least the same length of threads as the diameter of the bolt. So if you want to put a nut on a 7/16" bolt, there should be at least 7/16" of bolt available for the nut to engage. If the nut is thicker than the diameter of the bolt, then it would be nice to have at least as much bolt available as the nut is thick. All this IMHO.
I agree. We're talking closed lugnuts here, acorn type with a long shank. Too long a shank, and the nut will bottom on the flange and the wheel will be loose...too short a shank, and not enough thread purchase for side load strength. My bet is that the American's will be of similar cross section as your current slot mags...your studs will be fine, just use the right lugnuts. (What the manufacturer recommends, probably)
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I'll let you know when they are available. I believe they are 15X8 and appear to be in good shape. I'm just going back to the style on my old Vette
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If your getting the "correct" wheels for the car, the newer American Mags should leave you with plenty of thread left. Just be sure to use the right lug nuts. I have a set of American TT II's and they fit well with plenty of thread.

Edit note: If you have disc brakes which, I assume you do, check the clearance at all 4 of your calipers as the inside of the wheel may come very close to them.

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I'll let you know when they are available. I believe they are 15X8 and appear to be in good shape. I'm just going back to the style on my old Vette
Great Kent I appreciate it very much.

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Those wheels would look a lot better without the faux knock off spinners. They look real serious with no hub covers at all.

Boss car BTW.

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Thanks I agree. If you play on the road race track wheels and their lug nuts are very important. Strength of the wheel, not all are appropriate for that kind of driving loads and the proper lug nut, I have seen the differences in lug nut style and they can be used incorrectly.
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Originally Posted by kellsdad
I fail to see how any number of threads showing "past the lug nut" helps in any way. I suspect the correct guidance is to engage as least the same length of threads as the diameter of the bolt. So if you want to put a nut on a 7/16" bolt, there should be at least 7/16" of bolt available for the nut to engage. If the nut is thicker than the diameter of the bolt, then it would be nice to have at least as much bolt available as the nut is thick. All this IMHO.
that is correct, the full strength of the fastener is obtained with a bolt diameter length of engagement.

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FWIW i think those wheels go well with the flares and enhance the look of the car...
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Looks better right side up !!

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You have SUCH a unique car................................I REALLY think those wheels add so much to the car's distinguished look. If it were my car, I would leave those wheels on it, but it IS your car so do what makes you happy. Good luck with it.

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I'll get a picture when the new wheels are mounted. They should arrive by Friday.
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Nothing wrong with having 2 or more different types of wheels. As we all know, wheels and tires can really make a car look quite different. Personally, I will at times get a bit bored with the way my car looks so, I'll put on a different set (I have 3) and voilà, it changes the whole appearance! Plus, it's so easy to do.

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