Dnaper64

I have a 1964 327 , 365hp, 4 speed. When I put it in gear it is like I have the brakes on and it stalls the engine when I start to release the clutch . I have tried first , 2nd reverse with the same issue, I can put it in neutral and it will roll with no issues .

Dies anyone have ideas what could be the issue

thanks

66jack

Sounds like the Shifter arms/rods are binding...crawl under there and move the rods/levers...

The 1-2 and 3-4 levers on trans should be vertical...

Or you have a pilot bushing issue...

Dnaper64

Thanks for the fast response, I will take a look , if it is a bushing, what is needed to replace

thanks again

69z28&ss396

Rods first..

Trans/clutch removal for pilot bushing.

66jack

If its not the levers binding...

You'll have to pull the transmission...to get to the pilot bushing...but wait until others chime in to get some other opinions...before you tackle the trans...

I just know that one time right after i had put in a new bushing, the darn car wouldn't move...
So my friend came over and checked things out, 'shifter' levers/rods, he said i had probably damaged the bushing on install...so out it came, sure enough i had damaged it...got it all back together and took my time in/on the install and its worked like a charm for the last 3 years...

Dnaper64

I will start with the levers/rods, , I can't get back to the car until Friday to check. It happened one time prior and I rolled the car a couple inches and it was fine, not as lucky this time

Sullyvette

Hi Dnaper64, I just went through this process with my '65. I followed the Forum's advice and replaced my shift levers and ordered a new old Muncie shifter. I installed them weekend, but due to snow, no road test yet. Shifter seems a lot tighter. Good luck. Chuck

Sky65

When you say it will roll in neutral do you mean rock back and forth or roll in excess of 2 ft?

Tom

Dnaper64

Thanks Chuck, the car has a Hurst Shifter on it now, is the Muncie Shifter the original for this car. rookie question , but new to Corvettes

Dnaper64

it will roll 2 feet in neutral, but in gear it is like the emergency brake is on and the engine stalls as I release the clutch

Kerrmudgeon

Check to see if your clutch isn't stuck on the flywheel. Was the car sitting for a long time before you tried it? Once in a while my car will do that exact thing. You have to put it in reverse or first depending on which way you can go and start it in gear....this usually will make the car lurch in that direction and within a second or two the clutch will free up. Just make sure the way is clear....
It's worth a try anyway, especially if there was no indication of anything wrong before.

Dnaper64

I just drove the car , I was re positioning it in the garage, pulled back , then forward , then that was it , stuck. when I tried it in 1st 2nd and reverse , same result , just stalls

I can't get to the car until Friday , but will see if the clutch is stuck on the flywheel

thanks for the suggestion

Sky65

My logic, for ever that's worth, is this.
Trans not stuck in two gears because it rolls in neutral.
If clutch was stuck he wouldn't be able to put it in gear with engine running or it would drive away. Not stall the engine when the clutch was engaged.
The only thing I can think of is shifter is moving 2 trans levers at the same time. Which puts the trans in 2 gears at once and puts them
Back in neutral together as well. I have never seen it before.
I would he the car up on jack stands and have someone shift it and watch what happens with the trans levers.

JMHO
Tom

66jack

After reading this post its more than likely its the linkage...

Time for a linkage adjustment...

Dnaper64

Tom as crazy as it sounds , it almost feels like the car is in 1st and reverse at the same time. I need to get under the car and check out all the suggested posts then get back to everyone with what I find. certainly a first for me

thanks

66jack

Post #7 is a picture and dimensions of tool you'll need to do the adjustment...if you don't want to purchase one, you can make on out of a 'church key', can/bottle opener...

https://www.corvetteforum.com/forums...ment-tool.html


:::EDIT:::

Check out this link also...

https://www.corvetteforum.com/forums...uge-lenth.html

OldKarz

My .02 is the same as Sky65. Good luck!

kingwoodvette

Believe the suggestions about linkage are on target. When I had this problem I found that some of the rod holes in the shift levers were elongated from years of shifting. New levers should fix the problem or "Bubba it" like I did by welding up the wallowed holes and redrilling the proper size.

Plasticman

Since you stated you have a Hurst Shifter, note that it's alignment key can typically use a 1/4" Allen (hex) wrench or a 1/4" diameter rod bent to fit up "there". I don't think it uses the same alignment key as the stock shifter.

Also, you may just find the shift rod bushing are simply "gone" (either broken or worn). Hurst used 2 different types of interchangable bushings - plastic and metal. Plastic are less noisy (less rattle), but don't last as long as the metal version. Those bushings being damaged or missing may allow sufficient slop for 2 gears to be engaged at the same time.

Plasticman

66jack

I missed the HURST SHIFTER post...