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Old 02-23-2017, 10:52 PM
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Hi all,

The '66 rebuild is going slowly. I am nearly finished rebuilding the front end. Hoping to have a rolling chassis this year.

I want to do R&P steering and have a few questions. First off, I am not sure whether I will do electric assist or power steering using a pump and fluid...If I buy a rack meant to be used with a pump and ps fluid but decide to do electric assist instead would the rack work?

My other question is, I have seen used racks from time to time. Anything I need to ask or look into before buying?

I'm looking at the Unisteer or the Flaming River R&P.

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Which ever way you go, my guess is that you will be pleased. But if you are not, it is easily reversed. I put a Flamming River R&P in my '66 over 5 years ago. Next to my Vintage Air or the TKO600, I'd be hard pressed to say which was the best change. Here are a couple photos of my installation.






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Thanks for the advice and pics. Your FR rack looks great!

I am thinking I could use a traditional rack which uses a pump as ps fluid. If I decide to make it electric I'll just put the lines in a loop then add ps fluid for lubrication.
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Lucky me, just got a used Flaming River rack for 750.
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Sounds like you are on your way now. Don't forget to post some photos when you're done.
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Has anyone heard of having any problems with front-end wheel alignment after installing these rack and pinion systems? Specifically on a 62'
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Originally Posted by webfiero
Which ever way you go, my guess is that you will be pleased. But if you are not, it is easily reversed. I put a Flamming River R&P in my '66 over 5 years ago. Next to my Vintage Air or the TKO600, I'd be hard pressed to say which was the best change. Here are a couple photos of my installation.






This system looks like it requires the small oil pan. Is that right?

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There was no problem installing the Flamming River R&P system on my car. My car is a 427 and has the same oil pan that was on the car that it had when I bought it in 1987. Is there any way to visually verify that my oil pan is not original to my car?
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There was no problem installing the Flamming River R&P system on my car. My car is a 427 and has the same oil pan that was on the car that it had when I bought it in 1987. Is there any way to visually verify that my oil pan is not original to my car?
I don't know about BB engines but SB engines may have either of these pans. I stole the pic from another thread. The one on the right is the 6qt pan used on higher hp cars. It looks to me like there is not enough room under the front of the 6qt for the rack to fit.



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Well, after a bit of work I got my R&P installed.

I bought a used Steeroids kit, replaced the rack and bushings etc then installed it. Turned out really good and was an easy install.
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Looks good
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Originally Posted by 68ragtop69
Has anyone heard of having any problems with front-end wheel alignment after installing these rack and pinion systems? Specifically on a 62'
no effect on alignment; alignment on a stock front suspension, except for toe-in, is done on the upper a-frames. hence, no alignment problems as you are not replacing any of the suspension...

I have power R&P on my 62



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Are you discarding a power steering set-up? I'm looking for an original PS control valve.
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Originally Posted by ILBMF
Looks good

Thanks, the rack is a GM from the late 80s to early 90s, pn 22-109 or 6449 depending on where you buy it.

The problem was the refurbisher does it as cheap as possible. The entire thing was painted black with the cheapest spray can paint you could buy, and with no prep work. I literally brushed the paint of with a wire brush...I could actually scrape it off with my fingernail.

But even after buying a new rack and other parts I saved a couple hundred so I'm happy. Now the front end is done, time to start on the rear.
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Originally Posted by Brad-SixTsix
Well, after a bit of work I got my R&P installed.

I bought a used Steeroids kit, replaced the rack and bushings etc then installed it. Turned out really good and was an easy install.
Your earlier post said you got a flaming river rack. Not that it matters, but which one did you get?
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Originally Posted by davekp78
Are you discarding a power steering set-up? I'm looking for an original PS control valve.
Sorry, the car had manual steering.

I'm "planning" on doing electric assisted steering with the motor under the dash, we'll see.

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Originally Posted by warrenmj
Your earlier post said you got a flaming river rack. Not that it matters, but which one did you get?

Yeah it was listed incorrectly, I found that out just before I placed an offer on it.

Its a steeroids

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Originally Posted by Brad-SixTsix
Yeah it was listed incorrectly, I found that out just before I placed an offer on it.

Its a steeroids
I have had a Steeroids R&P installed in my '66 for about 10 years and love it.

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