[C2] 15x7 wheels on a stock C2?
#21
Le Mans Master
When I got my '64 it had the 6" ralley wheels (Nova offset) with 235/70/15s and nothing rubbed.
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#23
Le Mans Master
Thread Starter
Thanks guys, I appreciate all the info and pics...
At the moment, Im leaning towards 15x7 Torque Thrusts (VN309) with the 3.75 backspacing for wheels and running 225/60/15s at all 4 corners...probably BFG Radial T/As for now.
Yes the TTs are overdone, but that's because they look so good. The above combo can be had mounted, balanced, and shipped for right at $1K. I love everything about the '64 I just bought but the base model stock wheels are terrible (in my humble opinion) and a set of bolt on knock off replicas are silly expensive.
At the moment, Im leaning towards 15x7 Torque Thrusts (VN309) with the 3.75 backspacing for wheels and running 225/60/15s at all 4 corners...probably BFG Radial T/As for now.
Yes the TTs are overdone, but that's because they look so good. The above combo can be had mounted, balanced, and shipped for right at $1K. I love everything about the '64 I just bought but the base model stock wheels are terrible (in my humble opinion) and a set of bolt on knock off replicas are silly expensive.
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Thanks guys, I appreciate all the info and pics...
At the moment, Im leaning towards 15x7 Torque Thrusts (VN309) with the 3.75 backspacing for wheels and running 225/60/15s at all 4 corners...probably BFG Radial T/As for now.
Yes the TTs are overdone, but that's because they look so good. The above combo can be had mounted, balanced, and shipped for right at $1K. I love everything about the '64 I just bought but the base model stock wheels are terrible (in my humble opinion) and a set of bolt on knock off replicas are silly expensive.
At the moment, Im leaning towards 15x7 Torque Thrusts (VN309) with the 3.75 backspacing for wheels and running 225/60/15s at all 4 corners...probably BFG Radial T/As for now.
Yes the TTs are overdone, but that's because they look so good. The above combo can be had mounted, balanced, and shipped for right at $1K. I love everything about the '64 I just bought but the base model stock wheels are terrible (in my humble opinion) and a set of bolt on knock off replicas are silly expensive.
#26
Racer
#27
I have just bought a 66 coupe. It has chromed AR TT 17x7 on it. I don't like the look so have bought AR TTDs in 15x7. I hate the look of modern tyres on old cars but I want great performance from them. I have chosen Avon CR6ZZ in 225/60/15. They are road and race tyres and I have used them racing with an E Type, Cobra and Bizzarrini and they perform excellently (2 secs a lap quicker at Spa than the Dunlop race tyres with Bizzarrini).
Does anyone know what, if any spacers I will have to use with these and has anyone tried them on a C2?
Also if anyone wants the wheels and tyres on my car (which are in excellent condition they can be had for a very good price) I live in Scotland though!
Best Jamie
Does anyone know what, if any spacers I will have to use with these and has anyone tried them on a C2?
Also if anyone wants the wheels and tyres on my car (which are in excellent condition they can be had for a very good price) I live in Scotland though!
Best Jamie
#29
Le Mans Master
Thread Starter
Info on the Avon CR6ZZ
https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=Xi_S104H7WY
https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=Xi_S104H7WY
#30
Instructor
The Avons are available at a number of racing tire companies-and they are nice tires with a period look, speed rating and proper size. Yes, they are very expensive. Michelin also makes vintage speed rated tires for Euro car like Ferrari-ridiculously expensive. I think I paid 600 per tire for my 330! The Pirelli P6 is essentially as good at a fraction of the cost.
#31
I have just bought a 66 coupe for a road car it has chromed 17x7 on it.... Look wrong to me just bought TTDs in 15x7 and Avons. I have raced with them on E Type, Cobra and Bizzarrini and they are 2 secs a lap quicker at Spa than Dunlops in the Bizzarrini.
How good will they be as road tyres? Will I need spacers and if so how big?
Wheels and tyres on the car for sale and going cheep but in Scotland.
Best Jamie
How good will they be as road tyres? Will I need spacers and if so how big?
Wheels and tyres on the car for sale and going cheep but in Scotland.
Best Jamie
#32
The Avons are available at a number of racing tire companies-and they are nice tires with a period look, speed rating and proper size. Yes, they are very expensive. Michelin also makes vintage speed rated tires for Euro car like Ferrari-ridiculously expensive. I think I paid 600 per tire for my 330! The Pirelli P6 is essentially as good at a fraction of the cost.
#33
Instructor
The P6000. Certainly no race tire, works pretty well on track with a narrow wheel C2 when shaved a bit. The Avon is better, but our narrow cars are used more for high speed open road rallies-the P6000 works very well for this purpose and varying conditions.
For wide tire C2s we use Hoosiers or Goodyear.
For wide tire C2s we use Hoosiers or Goodyear.
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#35
Le Mans Master
Thread Starter
So heres the exact look Im going for....
Let me know what you think, it almost looks like this car is running 16s, but its hard to tell. I really wish I could find the wheel size, back spacing, and tires size. This is an original '63 Z06 that sold at Mecham a while ago....lots of info on the web site, unfortunately, nothing on the wheel/tire set up.
Let me know what you think, it almost looks like this car is running 16s, but its hard to tell. I really wish I could find the wheel size, back spacing, and tires size. This is an original '63 Z06 that sold at Mecham a while ago....lots of info on the web site, unfortunately, nothing on the wheel/tire set up.
#36
Instructor
I have just bought a 66 coupe for a road car it has chromed 17x7 on it.... Look wrong to me just bought TTDs in 15x7 and Avons. I have raced with them on E Type, Cobra and Bizzarrini and they are 2 secs a lap quicker at Spa than Dunlops in the Bizzarrini.
How good will they be as road tyres? Will I need spacers and if so how big?
Wheels and tyres on the car for sale and going cheep but in Scotland.
Best Jamie
How good will they be as road tyres? Will I need spacers and if so how big?
Wheels and tyres on the car for sale and going cheep but in Scotland.
Best Jamie
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#37
Team Owner
That car has 7x15s and 6.0-15. Goodyear Vintage reproduction race rubber (going off of memory) and I can't see the tread on an iPhone to know for sure! Would have to get on my real computer to see the tread to currently ID the model of Goodyear! And not a tire you should operate on the street! They sell them on Goodyears race tire website! The guys with flares usually move up to the 8.0s. A Cobra runs like the 6.0 in front and the 8.0 in the rear!
The Treaded Avons wear out really fast, especially on the front! If you drove them around for a couple of months, you will be regretting your decision of trying to operate them on the street! You would be better of with a H rated BFG but with shaved treads! Most of these cars at the best are 140mph cars, unless you have an overdrive tranny and or a highway ratio rear, and then you had better have the engine to pull it to top, before you run out of road! I have had HR BFGs unshaven up over 150mph and have not had them come apart, but not for sustained speeds! Also not an a hot day, on heated pavement and prior to running it up to those speeds, I let a little air out (2-3 lbs). That car runs a traditional F-41 with some 550lb slalom springs, but I think from memory he has more modern shocks!
225/60-15 depending on the manufacture should fit unlowered! Just running the lower heavy duty springs!
The Treaded Avons wear out really fast, especially on the front! If you drove them around for a couple of months, you will be regretting your decision of trying to operate them on the street! You would be better of with a H rated BFG but with shaved treads! Most of these cars at the best are 140mph cars, unless you have an overdrive tranny and or a highway ratio rear, and then you had better have the engine to pull it to top, before you run out of road! I have had HR BFGs unshaven up over 150mph and have not had them come apart, but not for sustained speeds! Also not an a hot day, on heated pavement and prior to running it up to those speeds, I let a little air out (2-3 lbs). That car runs a traditional F-41 with some 550lb slalom springs, but I think from memory he has more modern shocks!
225/60-15 depending on the manufacture should fit unlowered! Just running the lower heavy duty springs!
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#38
Flynavy30, I completely agree with the look you are going for, as stated above the Goodyears on that car are race tyres and certainly would not be road legal here in the UK. I get the point about the BFG being a better value tyre than the Avon, but to me the tread pattern does not look period 60s and I don't believe the side walls will give the same "ballon" look that you can see on that gorgeous Z06.
This thread has now got me thinking I should perhaps return my 15x7s and have them replaced by 15x6s as they will enhance the look of bulging side walls.
This thread has now got me thinking I should perhaps return my 15x7s and have them replaced by 15x6s as they will enhance the look of bulging side walls.
#39
Le Mans Master
Thread Starter
another option for tires...(keep in mind Im not racing my car)...Diamondback will sell you BFG Radial T/As with smooth sidewalls. You could always buy those, and then make a stencil and spray paint the "Goodyear" on the smooth side walls for the look on a street tire. I may actually give that a shot since I can get the BFG in 225/60/15
#40
Team Owner
Most won't have the budgets to run tires like the Avons and Michelin TBs and the repop Pirellis or other marginal usage on the street tires!
Then you have a category that is getting better where like F-70 or L-60 reproduction type Goodyears and Firestones are. Wing repop' d And those aren't what I would call performance tires, even though being made of modern rubber! They don't stick like the ones above!
Then the last group that that has been around is the last BFG holdout, who offers sizing for 8-10 inch rims (275 & 295 15s). They are cheap and are street safe!
And I hear rumors of more vintage repops!
Our cars are pretty high strung rides, so we either follow them with a chase or support vehicle carrying an extra set of rims and race tires or we are trailering now if further out than a hundred miles! We burn more than a whole tank of gas on a hundred mile round trip too! We used to use the BFG R1/Gforce race tires sold special order and drive out carefully on those! But they weren't build for commuting to and from events!
The 168mph rated TB-15 rally tires at 5 bills a pop each are what I am looking to mount up next! At the big Porsche Event here, I found some of the RGruppe crowd on that rubber, but with mixed reviews and the negatives were mostly on the expected life expectancy on the street! But those guys running said better results than what else is out there!
And 7 inch rims should not be hard to shoe! I haven't shopped for those small sizes lately, but maybe 15 inch in the 205-235 range in a true apeed rated high performance tire! I don't need tires like that in that smaller size! My C3 driver, I just op that on BFGs, and the suspension is pretty built, so the tires are the disappointment, but it is fine! I just drive it within it's ability with those tires! They get greasy fast! Like to slide around!
Then you have a category that is getting better where like F-70 or L-60 reproduction type Goodyears and Firestones are. Wing repop' d And those aren't what I would call performance tires, even though being made of modern rubber! They don't stick like the ones above!
Then the last group that that has been around is the last BFG holdout, who offers sizing for 8-10 inch rims (275 & 295 15s). They are cheap and are street safe!
And I hear rumors of more vintage repops!
Our cars are pretty high strung rides, so we either follow them with a chase or support vehicle carrying an extra set of rims and race tires or we are trailering now if further out than a hundred miles! We burn more than a whole tank of gas on a hundred mile round trip too! We used to use the BFG R1/Gforce race tires sold special order and drive out carefully on those! But they weren't build for commuting to and from events!
The 168mph rated TB-15 rally tires at 5 bills a pop each are what I am looking to mount up next! At the big Porsche Event here, I found some of the RGruppe crowd on that rubber, but with mixed reviews and the negatives were mostly on the expected life expectancy on the street! But those guys running said better results than what else is out there!
And 7 inch rims should not be hard to shoe! I haven't shopped for those small sizes lately, but maybe 15 inch in the 205-235 range in a true apeed rated high performance tire! I don't need tires like that in that smaller size! My C3 driver, I just op that on BFGs, and the suspension is pretty built, so the tires are the disappointment, but it is fine! I just drive it within it's ability with those tires! They get greasy fast! Like to slide around!