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Old 03-24-2017, 11:09 AM
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Originally Posted by Root2812
It sucks that happens to all the good shows. I used to like Fast N Loud and then they quit doing cars an average guy could get and everything had to be six figures and all drama with very little actual car work.

Even Roadkill on YouTube is getting starting to Jump the shark. They use to do all budget and junk yard stuff which was fun but now it's all high dollar parts and drag racing.
Hey! Do not bag on Roadkill!

They been using high end parts since the beginning. Episode 7 blower on a v-8 jag... They just had a 1.5k shootout. Nothing high end there.

They need a TV show, though, maybe not since it will probably ruin the idea.

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Old 03-24-2017, 11:15 AM
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I remember when Jerry Seinfeld quit his show - I think after he was offered like $5MM per episode. He just wanted to go out on top while the series was at its peak...

There just comes a time...
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True. You can witness the evolution in the show when you see the old episodes.. where they were working on $1000 cars, and Ed would do touchup with rattle-can paint, to the last season, where they were doing bizarre vehicles like Humvees, delivery vans, etc. 13 years is a long time... but the thing that held it together (at least for me) was Edd's mechanical and engineering expertise.
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And I appreciated the honesty when they clearly "stepped on it"..

When they did some sort of "soap bubble wrap" on an old van and they couldn't unload it...Edd said he just kept it. I doubt he still has it but I was surprised the episode even got aired. It was TERRIBLE!
Old 03-24-2017, 11:48 AM
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I'm about up to here with all these car fix shows that offer few if any technical details and have arbitrary deadlines just for drama. "Gotta get er done in four weeks!!!"...please. Some are just thinly disguised commercials for aftermarket products and car wax
They should watch This Old House...thats the way to do it.
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Well Edd does have his negative moments. He bragged on the improved performance derived by putting an electronic points conversion in a car (it looked like a Pertronix) and even I am careful about such claims. They are also a little too quick to pop an Edelbrock carb (as many shows do) and claim victory. Not a fan of that...a short cut IMO. I will miss the English idioms like "perished" and "dodgy" though....those are a hoot...

I noticed lately Mike Brewer actually getting his hands dirty. Prob a presage of things to come as his role is expanded - it prob won't do any good though...

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Old 03-24-2017, 12:18 PM
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Well there is years of reruns.
Old 03-24-2017, 12:49 PM
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He is the heart of the show. I am out as well.
Old 03-24-2017, 01:49 PM
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So Velocity took something great and fixed it.
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Perhaps Edd will hook up with Wayne.
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Originally Posted by Root2812
It sucks that happens to all the good shows. I used to like Fast N Loud and then they quit doing cars an average guy could get and everything had to be six figures and all drama with very little actual car work.

Even Roadkill on YouTube is getting starting to Jump the shark. They use to do all budget and junk yard stuff which was fun but now it's all high dollar parts and drag racing.
Very well put about Fast and Loud. I used to love it. Now I can't stand it. I used to want to share a beer with Richard. Now I would run from him. I can understand why Aaron Kaufman quit: he's a 'car guy' and Richard is a publicity hound....a showman, a promoter. Chasing Classic Cars is still good, even though the cars all start at about a million-five..........
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Originally Posted by GTOguy
Very well put about Fast and Loud. I used to love it. Now I can't stand it. I used to want to share a beer with Richard. Now I would run from him. I can understand why Aaron Kaufman quit: he's a 'car guy' and Richard is a publicity hound....a showman, a promoter. Chasing Classic Cars is still good, even though the cars all start at about a million-five..........
Watch Roadkill on youtube. You will like it.

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I'd be willing to bet Velocity couldn't care less about viewers' opinions.

I'm wondering why the repair segments are significantly more expensive.

Like Frankie said, Brewer obviously started getting his hands dirty lately... I guess there was something to that.

Maybe Edd can hook up with Robyn from South Beach Classics and they can start a new unemployed cast member spinoff like Fast and Loud started.
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I'll miss Ed; WD was one of the few shows that actually showed problem solving skills that didn't come from a vendors box. It was a great show without artificial drama or "slammed" customs with tattoo art.
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Originally Posted by Frankie the Fink
Well Edd does have his negative moments. He bragged on the improved performance derived by putting an electronic points conversion in a car (it looked like a Pertronix) and even I am careful about such claims. They are also a little too quick to pop an Edelbrock carb (as many shows do) and claim victory. Not a fan of that...a short cut IMO. I will miss the English idioms like "perished" and "dodgy" though....those are a hoot...

I noticed lately Mike Brewer actually getting his hands dirty. Prob a presage of things to come as his role is expanded - it prob won't do any good though...
I caught that stuff, too. But gave him a' television pass'. I too could listen to Edd all day, describing stuff as 'past it' and 'out of nick'....and I appreciated his humility at the horrific van build that didn't sell, too. It was a great show.
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Originally Posted by Vettebuyer6369
I'd be willing to bet Velocity couldn't care less about viewers' opinions.
That's not true. I work in broadcast (on the technical side). TV networks have a simple business model: They buy content (shows) and sell advertising.

Ad rates are tied to viewer numbers, as measured by Nielsen and others. If a show looses viewers, they loose money.

I noticed some 'top tier' advertisers had jumped on the WD bandwagon in the last season. The show must be making them good ad rates.

Direct viewer feedback is a component of how they make programming decisions.

The Internet has basically turned the traditional broadcast business upside down (netflix, utube, etc.).. so these traditional broadcasters are desperate to hold onto viewers of traditional (non Internet) programming.

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Originally Posted by SDVette
That's not true. I work in broadcast (on the technical side). TV networks have a simple business model: They buy content (shows) and sell advertising.

Ad rates are tied to viewer numbers, as measured by Nielsen and others. If a show looses viewers, they loose money.

I noticed some 'top tier' advertisers had jumped on the WD bandwagon in the last season. The show must be making them good ad rates.

Direct viewer feedback is a component of how they make programming decisions.

The Internet has basically turned the traditional broadcast business upside down (netflix, utube, etc.).. so these traditional broadcasters are desperate to hold onto viewers of traditional (non Internet) programming.
I'm no dummy but I can in no way reconcile what you just posted against what the Velocity channel is allegedly doing to this series.

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Old 03-24-2017, 05:15 PM
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Originally Posted by Frankie the Fink
I'll get over it. I'm still PO'ed that they replaced the original Darrin on Bewitched...
WhoTF was Dick York anyway?

Originally Posted by Twan Sloot
wow this was one of the only great car shows on the tv, more and more shitty programs are on tv that are just not worth watching, things like fast n loud, misfit garage.......
Originally Posted by jimh_1962
Lets cut out all of the cool stuff and replace it with fake drama car shows and stupid antics.
Originally Posted by Frankie the Fink
I remember when Jerry Seinfeld quit his show. There just comes a time...
His Comedians in Cars having Coffee (on line) is great! A different car every episode.

He also compares his early retirement to a slip and slide in the episode with Alec Baldwin.

Originally Posted by John BX NY
I'm about up to here with all these car fix shows that offer few if any technical details and have arbitrary deadlines just for drama. "Gotta get er done in four weeks!!!"...please. Some are just thinly disguised commercials for aftermarket products and car wax.
Originally Posted by Vettebuyer6369
Maybe Edd can hook up with Robyn from South Beach Classics and they can start a new unemployed cast member spinoff like Fast and Loud started.
LOL

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I'll miss Ed; WD was one of the few shows that actually showed problem solving skills that didn't come from a vendors box. It was a great show without artificial drama or "slammed" customs with tattoo art.
All the above pretty much sums it up for me.

Besides, Gunsmoke started down the tubes when Burt Reynolds as Quint Asper left the show.
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Originally Posted by Frankie the Fink
I'm no dummy but I can in no way reconcile what you just posted against what the Velocity channel is allegedly doing to this series.
I've oversimplified it a bit. Viewer AGE and demographics play into it. The most sought-after group by advertisers is the 18-34 year olds, as they spend the most money on products.

I suspect that age group is not drawn to Edd's expertise as we are. In fact, that age group may PREFER less technical detail and more drama.....
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I agree with you completely. Without him, the show is toast.
Ed provided the "most" valuable aspect of the show. Mike is enjoyable, good hearted bloke but at last just provided a filler role. Wish Ed the BEST and hope HE will carry on with a new wrench turning, problem solving, REAL WORLD show of his own. He is a great loss. Velocity doesn't understand what they where successfully "selling" to us.
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