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Old 03-27-2017, 09:42 PM
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http://www.ebay.com/itm/1967-Chevrol...hYxJHm&vxp=mtr

If I knew this were truly matching, I would be a buyer. I'm sure someone will enlighten me to what I'm missing. Not a new listing. Thanks to all for educating me in advance!
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I think that's a bogus VIN tag. Lots of other obvious issues. Someone went crazy with gloss black paint all over the under carriage...hiding something?? Incorrect radio, air cleaner, carburetor, distributor, rear spring, seats look like the foam is completely disintegrated. Tough to make any clear call on the engine pad...not a very clear picture. There's more. Keep looking IMHO

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The dates/numbers don't line up well in comparison to my 67 which is also a L79 that is about 550 VIN/serial numbers earlier than the car in question (about 2-3 days). My car is also an AO Smith car and my body was produced I06 vs this one at I25. I cannot imagine that the body was built on April 25 and the car rolled off the assembly line 1 week later. My body number is A-2918 and this one A-3329. Lastly, my engine was assembled 4/14....even is they were not doing FIFO, I can't imagine a L79 sitting from 3/15 to the 1st week of May before it was used in a car. Similar to the prior poster, I think that this car was created, but not by GM in 1967.
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Also, they have either used an oil filter adapter or the block is totally bogus.
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Originally Posted by SeeYah
The dates/numbers don't line up well in comparison to my 67 which is also a L79 that is about 550 VIN/serial numbers earlier than the car in question (about 2-3 days). .
200+ cars a day?
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In the eBay ad, I count at least 6 uses of the term "numbers matching". People have totally lost their minds wanting to claim that. My 12-year old F150 is "numbers matching" too, probably more truthfully than a lot of the Vettes so advertised.

Looks like it's NOA - Not Original Air Cleaner!

Love the sales pitch:

"Very nice from top too bottom"

"Bad credit - no credit - no problem"

"Please verify all descriptions....in the event of a mistake Lucky Motors is not responsible for errors."
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If they can't provide some documentation-- POP, window sticker, old titles, tank sticker, etc. then pass in my opinion! Too many "real cars". Out there at that price. Or near that price! I would rather buy a car that I know is "real" and have to put $5,000+ into it over the next couple years --- at least then it will retain its value or possibly increase in value !
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Originally Posted by Railroadman
200+ cars a day?
OK, so it was late and I didn't do the math well....so 5-6 days. Still doubt that they could have built a body in Ionia, shipped it to STL via rail and then the completed the assembly in 10 calendar days. Nor does it explain the now 7 weeks window between engine assembly and car assembly. Lucky Motors wants to get lucky on this deal.
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Love some of the comments. Bogus vin tag bogus engine what ever that means dates don't line up ETC. Yes there is a lot of incorrect parts on the Corvette but all in all it looks like it has descent bones if the body has not been wacked for what they are asking for it. Engine pad trim & VIN tag look good to me from what I see. Looks like original interior. So I am goin to disagree with those here I think if tranny & rear end are original I think the car is worth what they are asking. Just a different opinion but I think it would be worth a look if interested in it.
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That car is right in my back yard, but I've never bothered to go look at it. Been for sale for over a year. The asking price was much higher originally.
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She's got some issues...
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Originally Posted by kenba
Love some of the comments. Bogus vin tag bogus engine what ever that means dates don't line up ETC. Yes there is a lot of incorrect parts on the Corvette but all in all it looks like it has descent bones if the body has not been wacked for what they are asking for it. Engine pad trim & VIN tag look good to me from what I see. Looks like original interior. So I am goin to disagree with those here I think if tranny & rear end are original I think the car is worth what they are asking. Just a different opinion but I think it would be worth a look if interested in it.
I'm kinda' like you but when I look at the raggedy looking carpet and seats along with the fit of the left fender/door and the appearance of the body fits/mismatch of the hood forward, it makes me want to walk away.

But, I wouldn't pay the '67 tax anyway.

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I would have a hard time buying a classic car from a dealer with the name Lucky Motors. I am afraid the only luck I might have with them would be bad luck.

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Think what everyone is trying to say; "Tough Old Car"

Been for sale about a year.
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Originally Posted by SeeYah
The dates/numbers don't line up well in comparison to my 67 which is also a L79 that is about 550 VIN/serial numbers earlier than the car in question (about 2-3 days). My car is also an AO Smith car and my body was produced I06 vs this one at I25. I cannot imagine that the body was built on April 25 and the car rolled off the assembly line 1 week later. My body number is A-2918 and this one A-3329. Lastly, my engine was assembled 4/14....even is they were not doing FIFO, I can't imagine a L79 sitting from 3/15 to the 1st week of May before it was used in a car. Similar to the prior poster, I think that this car was created, but not by GM in 1967.
My 67 vert #17842, has AO Smith body # A-3347 Dated I25
Engine build date of V0411HT
It has an out the door of St Louis date of May 4th

So their body and VIN numbers jibe with mine, yes the engine assembly date is a few weeks beyond mine, but it is not out of the realm of being legit.
I'm not saying this car is the real deal, I'd like to see the engine casting date, cyl head casting dates, differential dates, door panel trim dates (it is missing an attaching screw at the rear of the door, about 6" from the top of the window fuzzy). The fiberglass rear spring is bogus as well and all that black paint underneath, including the fiberglass body, is suspect. Although it could be by an idiot bubba trying to do a rattle can restoration.

I'm about 15+ miles from this dealer and may go take a look at it if anyone is interested.

Don

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Originally Posted by vetsvette2002
My 67 vert #17842, has AO Smith body # A-3347 Dated I25
Engine build date of V0411HT
It has an out the door of St Louis date of May 4th

So their body and VIN numbers jibe with mine, yes the engine assembly date is a few weeks beyond mine, but it is not out of the realm of being legit.
I'm not saying this car is the real deal, I'd like to see the engine casting date, cyl head casting dates, differential dates, door panel trim dates (it is missing an attaching screw at the rear of the door, about 6" from the top of the window fuzzy). The fiberglass rear spring is bogus as well and all that black paint underneath, including the fiberglass body, is suspect. Although it could be by an idiot bubba trying to do a rattle can restoration.




I'm about 15+ miles from this dealer and may go take a look at it if anyone is interested.

Don
Thanks to everyone as this has been a real education. Don, let me know what you find out if you take the drive although it sounds like a long shot for even a driver. I have been looking for well over a year and haven't even wanted to get an inspection on anything I've seen. Living in Southern California, I prefer a convertible L79 but not green or yellow. Cheers!
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It took me 2-1/2 years to get my split window; and that sort of fell into my lap after I had given up. People say there are a ton of nice, "real" cars out there. I say not.

The few that are tend to be 10%-15% over-priced and some many not care about that. Many are fakes, had the body hacked up and glued together by Ray Charles, rusty, in bad mechanical shape or the like. Good, reasonably priced, "real" cars are the rarity IMO - when you actually LOOK at them (as I have) and don't go by cleverly worded ads or shiny digital pictures.

I've seen a few nice APPEARING cars on the C1/C2 For Sale section lately...but just 2-3 in the past months.

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Bad engine restamp and rattle can resto underneath. Sitting way too high with the fiberglass spring and bolt setup. I'd keep looking.
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Originally Posted by jrm5657
I would have a hard time buying a classic car from a dealer with the name Lucky Motors. I am afraid the only luck I might have with them would be bad luck.
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Originally Posted by jrm5657
I would have a hard time buying a classic car from a dealer with the name Lucky Motors. I am afraid the only luck I might have with them would be bad luck.
Yup - it's them that would be "getting lucky" on that deal....



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