C1 & C2 Corvettes General C1 Corvette & C2 Corvette Discussion, Technical Info, Performance Upgrades, Project Builds, Restorations

How to fix 4 speed shifter rattle?????????

Thread Tools
 
Search this Thread
 
Old 10-07-2002, 06:18 PM
  #1  
tuxedo
Pro
Thread Starter
 
tuxedo's Avatar
 
Member Since: Mar 2001
Location: houston, texas usa tx
Posts: 601
Received 3 Likes on 2 Posts

Default How to fix 4 speed shifter rattle?????????

Anybody got any tips on getting rid of the rattle that I hear coming from my 1965 shifter/reverse housing etc. I know I can get a major or minor rebuild kit from C Central which includes new ***,reverse housing, bushings and assosciated other guts of the shifter. Will this fix the annoying rattle? Or is their a simpler way.
Old 10-07-2002, 06:35 PM
  #2  
396 RAT
Melting Slicks
 
396 RAT's Avatar
 
Member Since: Jun 2001
Location: San Clemente Ca.
Posts: 2,334
Likes: 0
Received 1 Like on 1 Post

Default Re: How to fix 4 speed shifter rattle????????? (tuxedo)

I am not sure you can ever get rid of it 100%.
Some will say buy a Hurst, But I prefer a stocker in good cond.
(Something else I am not sure everyone has experienced, one in good cond)
As I mentioned, you can get them close, but am not sure if you will get
them to be 100% rattle free at all {speeds & rpm range}.(poor design IMHO)
Maybe those who bought these cars new can let us know?
(yes I have a "slight" rattle at higher speeds, have trained my right knee
to rest on it, or leave my hand on it while cruising.
Sorry I could not give you the answer you were looking for.
Maybe someone else has found the 100% cure?
Old 10-07-2002, 06:55 PM
  #3  
waynec
Drifting
 
waynec's Avatar
 
Member Since: Feb 1999
Location: CA central coast
Posts: 1,806
Received 28 Likes on 22 Posts

Default Re: How to fix 4 speed shifter rattle????????? (396 RAT)

If you're not already aware of it, some vendors offer an "anti-rattle" spring and bracket for T-10 shifters, but even that will probably not completely eliminate shifter buzz. Dr Rebuild lists these parts in their catalog.

Woops, just noticed you have a Muncie, and the parts I mentioned are not for that shifter.





[Modified by waynec, 2:58 PM 10/7/2002]
Old 10-07-2002, 07:15 PM
  #4  
GaryS
Melting Slicks
 
GaryS's Avatar
 
Member Since: May 1999
Location: Moon Township PA
Posts: 2,897
Likes: 0
Received 0 Likes on 0 Posts

Default Re: How to fix 4 speed shifter rattle????????? (tuxedo)

I am pretty sure that Corvette Fever did an article a while back on rebuilding shifters. The parts came from ZIP, I think. Both have web sites and ZIP does a lot of "how to" stuff on their site. You are essentially replacing the nylon sleaves between the shifting parts. Fairly simple job, just a little dirty and knuckle busting.
Gary
Old 10-08-2002, 01:50 PM
  #5  
JohnZ
Team Owner

Support Corvetteforum!
 
JohnZ's Avatar
 
Member Since: Oct 2000
Location: Washington Michigan
Posts: 38,899
Received 1,856 Likes on 1,099 Posts

Default Re: How to fix 4 speed shifter rattle????????? (GaryS)

Ive taken the "buzz/rattle" out of several '64-'65 levers, where it was caused by the outer chrome sleeve rattling/buzzing against the main lever. Remove the **** and spring, then the chrome sleeve, and you'll see two white plastic bushings on the lever; these are usually worn, and allow the sleeve to rattle. If you don't have new bushings, wrap them with a turn or two of electrical tape and trial-fit the sleeve until it still moves up and down, but doesn't rattle laterally. Then get an O-ring slightly smaller than the diameter of the lever just above the step where the bottom of the sleeve rests, and install it there. Then install the chrome sleeve, spring, and ****; the tape wrap will stop the buzz, and the O-ring will stop the rattle where the bottom of the sleeve meets the step on the lever.
Old 10-08-2002, 02:26 PM
  #6  
achapman
Melting Slicks
 
achapman's Avatar
 
Member Since: Oct 2001
Location: Marblehead MA
Posts: 2,740
Likes: 0
Received 4 Likes on 4 Posts

Default Re: How to fix 4 speed shifter rattle????????? (tuxedo)

Ok, I'll go first.... get a Hurst.... hey it rhymes... :D but then you can get a 'repro' shift handle that looks like the origional Vette.... and have the best of both worlds.... :cheers:
Old 10-08-2002, 04:22 PM
  #7  
MasterDave
Moderator
 
MasterDave's Avatar
 
Member Since: Jun 1999
Location: Dove Mountain Arizona
Posts: 7,092
Received 49 Likes on 40 Posts

Default Re: How to fix 4 speed shifter rattle????????? (tuxedo)

Got a Hurst on mine, was there when I got it. Never did rattle, in fact I didn't know of the problem 'til I came on the forum. Conclusion; get a Hurst shifter. :cool:
Old 10-08-2002, 04:46 PM
  #8  
ajtorsiello
Instructor
 
ajtorsiello's Avatar
 
Member Since: Feb 2001
Location: Barnegat New Jersey
Posts: 202
Likes: 0
Received 0 Likes on 0 Posts

Default Re: How to fix 4 speed shifter rattle????????? (tuxedo)

Sorry, but I have to chime in here. Those stock shifters wern't any good when they were new so............put a hurst in and if you want it to look original buy the "T" handle they sell for it. If your going to drive it a lot you'll be glad you did.
Old 10-08-2002, 06:33 PM
  #9  
396 RAT
Melting Slicks
 
396 RAT's Avatar
 
Member Since: Jun 2001
Location: San Clemente Ca.
Posts: 2,334
Likes: 0
Received 1 Like on 1 Post

Default Re: How to fix 4 speed shifter rattle????????? (ajtorsiello)

Thanks, I was curious what they were like when new.
Have installed 1/2 dozen hurst shifters my own cars
through the years (mainly top loaders), and a B&M ratchet shifter or two,
but never bought a mid year brand new.
Still prefer the stocker in the short throw position. Dont ask me why , I just do. :D
Old 10-08-2002, 08:34 PM
  #10  
StrayDog
Safety Car

Support Corvetteforum!
 
StrayDog's Avatar
 
Member Since: Feb 2000
Location: Massachusetts , USA,
Posts: 4,977
Received 37 Likes on 27 Posts

Default Re: How to fix 4 speed shifter rattle????????? (396 RAT)

Instal a Hurst competition Plus, with look a like shifter .........rattle gone & instantanious & precise shifting......workd for my 66. :) :seeya
Old 10-08-2002, 10:57 PM
  #11  
magicv8
Le Mans Master
 
magicv8's Avatar
 
Member Since: Nov 2000
Location: Going too fast over the hill. Iowa
Posts: 7,246
Likes: 0
Received 18 Likes on 16 Posts

Default Re: How to fix 4 speed shifter rattle????????? (tuxedo)

I spent a several years with two GM shifters, completely rebuilding them with GM parts, then adding custom bushings washers and springs - to no avail. I have an A-C car, and the A-C (compressor vibration and added under floor heat) would always exacerbate the buzzing. It all went away about seven years ago when I found an old Hurst. As a bonus, you never worry about the shifter leaving your car in two gears at the same time.
Old 10-09-2002, 12:09 AM
  #12  
Blkblt
Drifting
 
Blkblt's Avatar
 
Member Since: Oct 2000
Location: Boerne Texas
Posts: 1,642
Likes: 0
Received 0 Likes on 0 Posts

Default Re: How to fix 4 speed shifter rattle????????? (achapman)

achapman wrote: "Ok, I'll go first.... get a Hurst.... hey it rhymes... but then you can get a 'repro' shift handle that looks like the origional Vette.... and have the best of both worlds.... "
_________________

Yep. He is first. And...he is right.

Hurst. Period. Get a "look-alike handle" and let the public look in and decide....... :D :lol:

After about 3 rebuilds including new bushings and the tape technique, I lay the original to rest in a box for the next caretaker...

:cheers:

********************
Jeff
'66
Old 10-09-2002, 10:49 AM
  #13  
propwash
Burning Brakes
 
propwash's Avatar
 
Member Since: Jul 2000
Location: Portland Or
Posts: 829
Likes: 0
Received 0 Likes on 0 Posts

Default Re: How to fix 4 speed shifter rattle????????? (Blkblt)

I guess I have to buck the popular majority. I rebuilt mine this last summer just before Reno's" Hot August Nights" About 500 miles from PDX .
Before the rebuild mine rattled at 70mph and so far after the rebuild I have hit tripple didgets once or twice :bb with no sound at all, How long the shifter Gods will smile on me I don't know. GL
Old 10-09-2002, 01:57 PM
  #14  
toddalin
Le Mans Master
 
toddalin's Avatar
 
Member Since: Oct 2000
Location: Santa Ana CA
Posts: 8,761
Received 1,152 Likes on 484 Posts

Default Re: How to fix 4 speed shifter rattle????????? (tuxedo)

Have a Hurst in my '64, and it still rattles some. But then I think that wereas '64s attach to the tranny, don't '65s attach to the chassis?
Old 10-09-2002, 02:10 PM
  #15  
achapman
Melting Slicks
 
achapman's Avatar
 
Member Since: Oct 2001
Location: Marblehead MA
Posts: 2,740
Likes: 0
Received 4 Likes on 4 Posts

Default Re: How to fix 4 speed shifter rattle????????? (toddalin)

Have a Hurst in my '64, and it still rattles some. But then I think that wereas '64s attach to the tranny, don't '65s attach to the chassis?
________________________________________ _________________

:lol: :lol: :lol:

Damn good thing those 65 chassis don't flex.... :yesnod:


[Modified by achapman, 1:11 PM 10/9/2002]
Old 10-09-2002, 09:26 PM
  #16  
magicv8
Le Mans Master
 
magicv8's Avatar
 
Member Since: Nov 2000
Location: Going too fast over the hill. Iowa
Posts: 7,246
Likes: 0
Received 18 Likes on 16 Posts

Default Re: How to fix 4 speed shifter rattle????????? (toddalin)

I believe the chassis mount started in late 66, but my car has the trans mount for stiffness. With chassis mount, engine torque will try to pull the linkage unless you use solid motor mounts.
Old 10-18-2014, 02:44 PM
  #17  
skyjerm
5th Gear
 
skyjerm's Avatar
 
Member Since: Oct 2014
Location: San Diego CA
Posts: 5
Likes: 0
Received 0 Likes on 0 Posts
Default Replace entire shifter or just handle with Hurst

Originally Posted by ajtorsiello
Sorry, but I have to chime in here. Those stock shifters wern't any good when they were new so............put a hurst in and if you want it to look original buy the "T" handle they sell for it. If your going to drive it a lot you'll be glad you did.
I have this problem, and I'm eager to solve it permanently, but there are two replacement options:
1) just the handle for about $90
2) the entire shift assembly for about $440

I assume replacing just the handle won't be enough to stop the rattling, or will it?
Old 10-18-2014, 04:10 PM
  #18  
Bluestripe67
Race Director
Support Corvetteforum!
 
Bluestripe67's Avatar
 
Member Since: Jan 2002
Location: Close to DC
Posts: 14,534
Received 2,126 Likes on 1,465 Posts
C2 of the Year Finalist - Modified 2020

Default

Welcome to the CF. I may have been better for you to start a new thread instead of tagging onto a 12 yr old one, but I will respond. What year is your car and what is your driving/use style? If you must have it all correct/stock, the shifter can be rebuilt, but it may still rattle at some point. If you don't mind a thing or two being non-stock, put a Hurst Competition Plus in with the straight handle. Dennis
Old 10-18-2014, 04:41 PM
  #19  
66jack
Team Owner
 
66jack's Avatar
 
Member Since: May 2006
Location: CA
Posts: 30,338
Received 829 Likes on 573 Posts

Default

Here's a Fix...for this 12 year old thread..

PER JohnZ...

https://www.corvetteforum.com/forums...ow-to-fix.html

Get notified of new replies

To How to fix 4 speed shifter rattle?????????




Quick Reply: How to fix 4 speed shifter rattle?????????



All times are GMT -4. The time now is 05:53 AM.