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Old 02-25-2004, 01:40 PM
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I thought I saw a thread recently asking about using a space saver wheel and tire. As I recall these started to be used in Vettes in 76-77 or so and should have the clearance to clear the brake calipers. I wondered if any of you folks have used one of these units on your mid-years as a spare. If so, can you tell me which year and size you used? Thanks for your help.

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it better be full diameter if you're going to use it on the rear.....or your posi unit will get very upset with you.
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Thanks for the response. I need a 25" diameter tire to match the tires I am using. I'm making an aluminum mount to replace the tire tub and I'm looking for something with a narrower tread width to gain some ground clearance. I also need to make sure to get a wheel which will clear the brake calipers.

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I'm using a GM "donut" spare has 2 bolt patterns
it's the only thing that I have that will fit in the tub
of coarse my '64 has drum brakes.
If you want any measurements let me know
I'll pull it out

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Rod,

Thanks for the information and offer. I'm not sure how your wheel would clear the brake caliper though. Do you know what year car the wheel came from?

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Spare Tire????.......... I don't need no stinken Spare Tire..
:lol: :lol: :lol:
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Spare Tire????.......... I don't need no stinken Spare Tire..
:lol: :lol: :lol:
Yeah, I hear ya! I was waiting for that one. :lol:

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Doesn't Fit
It's a code "rs" probably a '80 Impala (guess,not at work)
wheel 24" tall, fits drums ok
Just tried it on the '74 Will Not clear the calipers

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Rod,

Thanks for taking the time to check it out. I appreciate it. :thumbs:

Someone said that the spare from a C4 would fit and I'll have to check that out.

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Rich,

I was one who had wriiten in response to the other thread. The Search function does not appear to be working, so I could not retrieve the previous thread.

I am using a thin spare. and don't know what it came off of. It fits on my 62, and is 26" in dia. (which matches my rear tires). I was thinking it came off of a mid-80's Caddy or SUV. The other possiblity is a mid-80's Chevy Monte Carlo SS (has posi rear end and the standard tires are that dia. as well (215/65 R15's). I was also going to look at my 87 Vette spare and check to see if it was "close" (standard tires are 255/50-16 and are 26.1" in dia.).

My thin spare fits real nice in the 62's spare area (with room to spare).

If you need the actual size of my spare, I can dig it out of the trunk again. Let me know.

Hope this helps.
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This subject is interesting to me because I don't run a spare - my current exhaust system precludes this - but I wouldn't mind having a spare to put on the back package shelf for long runs away from home (I would make a securing system so it wouldn't kill me in a crash). From a technical standpoint, how close do diameters have to be to avoid posi issues ? I have seen Corvettes with huge, heavy wheel and tire assemblies carried behind the seat with no restain mechanism and figured that was a disaster waiting to happen.

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If you're unsure what the wheel came off of, the 2-3 letter code
next to the valve stem works very well with gm wheels
I use that a lot at work

rod

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Default Re: Space Saver Wheel & Tire (richscorvettes)

For a spare wheel and tire for a '65 that I restored a few years back, I bought a never-used spare tire/wheel off a wrecked '78 or '79 Corvette. It was a perfect fit over the hubs and in the tub of the '65, and the overall diameter of the tire was almost identical to the original '65 tires.


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Default Re: Space Saver Wheel & Tire (Daffy2)

Daffy wrote: From a technical standpoint, how close do diameters have to be to avoid posi issues ?


I remember having steering problems (pulling to one side) during acceleration on a '65 when the rear tires varied in air pressure more than 4-5 psi....so depending on how tight your posi is, a small variation in tire size could cause problems.
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Default Re: Space Saver Wheel & Tire (richscorvettes)

Someone said that the spare from a C4 would fit and I'll have to check that out.
Rich:
I am using a space saver spare from an '84 Corvette on Carol's 62. The rim size is 16" x 4" and the tire size is T155/80D16. The tire diameter is a little over 25". Here is a sketch showing the inside rim dimensions. Charles
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Can't help with a spare that will work but here's a link to a handy tire size calculator:
http://www.miata.net/garage/tirecalc.html
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Rich,

Just checked my spare on the 62. It is a T155/80D16. measures (by circumference) to be 26" in dia.

The code near the valve stem is as follows: K485 9 30 RY

Now if someone can tell us what this code is from, we can identify where I got the spare from. I "assume" the K485 is a date code (made in April of 85), but please verify that as well. The "RY" is in larger letters than all of the others.

Good luck,
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Default Re: Space Saver Wheel & Tire (Plasticman)

Thanks everyone for the responses. I knew you folks would have the information I needed even on such a seemingly oddball question. :yesnod:

Looks like the T155/80D16 wheel/tire setup is the one to try. Thanks again.

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RY=
:Blazer S10/Jimmy S15 '83-03 4x2, 16x4 (compact spare)
:Blazer S10/Jimmy S15 '96-03 4x4, 16x4 (compact spare)
:Bonneville '82 16x4 (compact spare)
:Bonneville '83-86 16x4 (compact spare), 4-3/4" BC
:Camaro '81 16x4 (compact spare)
:Century '81 16x4 (compact spare)
:Cutlass '81-87 16x4 (compact spare)
:Cutlass '88 RWD, 16x4 (compact spare)
:Firebird '81 16x4 (compact spare)
:Grand Prix '82-87 16x4 (compact spare)
:Hombre '96-00 16x4 (compact spare)
:Malibu '81-83 16x4 (compact spare)
:Monte Carlo '81-87 16x4 (compact spare)
:Parisienne '82 16x4 (compact spare)
:Parisienne '83-86 16x4 (compact spare), 4-3/4" BC
:Regal '81-87 16x4 (compact spare)
:S10/S15/Sonoma '84-03 4x2, 16x4 (compact spare)
:S10/S15/Sonoma '96-03 4x4, 16x4 (compact spare)


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Edit: this wheel could also have a codes of
JJ
TBW
TV

when checking codes make sure you have the dia and width
as gm sometime uses the same code for different wheels
my "RS" is a 16" x 4"
but "RS" is also used on a 15 x 6"
Kinda like checking engine id codes

rod





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Default Re: Space Saver Wheel & Tire (yooperod)

Rod,

Thanks for the info! Looks like either the Monte Carlo or the SUV was where I got it from. But that size was available in many different vehicles that should make it easy to find.

This is a 16" X 4" rim (T155/80D16).

Please advise what ref. you used to give us that info. Looks like I need one of these references.

Rich,

I also have "in stock" a T125/80D16 that measures 24.1" in dia. (by circumferance measurement). This wheel has a code "RS" (16" X 4" wheel).

Good luck,
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