Just Purchased First Corvette: Numbers Matching '64 4-spd Coupe.
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08-16-2007, 02:16 AM
#24
Drifting
Thread Starter
After getting the tail, plate, and dash lights going (rusty fuse contact), I've been free to keep the car out late, so I've been spending the last couple of evenings after work cruising around getting used to the car.
The Special Lady Friend really digs the car as well. Life is good.
I've got a photo of the first half of the engine SN, which does appear to have the last half of the VIN at the end of it
And the engine block casting number and date (looks like A154 to me - so Jan 15, 1964?):
Thanks again for the feedback and advice. I'll be picking up a Black Book, and probably some info from the NCRS.
I've started the cleaning, and fixing up a few loose ends in the interior in preparation for this Sunday's show & shine. Hope the weather holds...
The Special Lady Friend really digs the car as well. Life is good.
...As for the numbers, one more you might want to look at is the engine block casting date, you'll find it on the rear upper passenger side, a letter followed by two or three numbers - post that one up and we'll help out. the '870 block casting number is certainly correct.
Thanks again for the feedback and advice. I'll be picking up a Black Book, and probably some info from the NCRS.
I've started the cleaning, and fixing up a few loose ends in the interior in preparation for this Sunday's show & shine. Hope the weather holds...
08-16-2007, 08:34 AM
#25
Le Mans Master
new corvette coupe cost for 1964,without options,$4,252.00.
That radio cost another $176.50.
Does that have power windows? (kinda looks like it)Cant tell from the pic. $59.20 was the option price and only 3,706 were ordered with that option.
22,229- 1964 corvettes were made, of which 8,304 were coupes.
I see no listing for the "Teak" steering wheel option for 1964.
3909 cars ermine white
19,034 cars were 4 speeds in 1964.option cost was $188.30
To sum it up, a 1964,ermine white,coupe,4 speed,AM/FM, with power windows, just might be "semi" rare. No more than3,706 could have been made. How many of the verts with power windows were made or coupes, of other colors, with power windows?
7 exterior colors were offered in 1964. If each color made had the same number of power window option ( which they didnt),529 would have been white, coupes and verts combined. For every 2 coupes made,they made 3 verts.(roughly).,My math and reasoning may be wrong,but does this mean that somewhere around 178 were built?
That radio cost another $176.50.
Does that have power windows? (kinda looks like it)Cant tell from the pic. $59.20 was the option price and only 3,706 were ordered with that option.
22,229- 1964 corvettes were made, of which 8,304 were coupes.
I see no listing for the "Teak" steering wheel option for 1964.
3909 cars ermine white
19,034 cars were 4 speeds in 1964.option cost was $188.30
To sum it up, a 1964,ermine white,coupe,4 speed,AM/FM, with power windows, just might be "semi" rare. No more than3,706 could have been made. How many of the verts with power windows were made or coupes, of other colors, with power windows?
7 exterior colors were offered in 1964. If each color made had the same number of power window option ( which they didnt),529 would have been white, coupes and verts combined. For every 2 coupes made,they made 3 verts.(roughly).,My math and reasoning may be wrong,but does this mean that somewhere around 178 were built?
Last edited by ghoastrider1; 08-16-2007 at 09:17 AM.
08-16-2007, 09:15 AM
#26
Le Mans Master
car appears to have a simulated wood grain (plastic) wheel, as they all did in 64, so no "correctness" issues there.
A block casting date of A154 (Jan 15 64) lines up nicely with the engine assembly date of Jan 30 (per the pad).
Glad to hear yo are enjoying the car and driving it! [Note, these old cars have a built in device that knows JUST when you are at the farthest point away from home in your trip, whereupon they trigger some sort of disabling problem, often hard to diagnose on the road. Bring your cell phone with you
]
A block casting date of A154 (Jan 15 64) lines up nicely with the engine assembly date of Jan 30 (per the pad).
Glad to hear yo are enjoying the car and driving it! [Note, these old cars have a built in device that knows JUST when you are at the farthest point away from home in your trip, whereupon they trigger some sort of disabling problem, often hard to diagnose on the road. Bring your cell phone with you
]
08-16-2007, 02:57 PM
#28
Drifting
Thread Starter
Glad to hear yo are enjoying the car and driving it! [Note, these old cars have a built in device that knows JUST when you are at the farthest point away from home in your trip, whereupon they trigger some sort of disabling problem, often hard to diagnose on the road. Bring your cell phone with you ]
]I guess I'll start digging into the other numbers, not sure which other components will have them (distributor, alternator, intake/exhaust manifolds, tranny, diff, etc...).
08-16-2007, 03:12 PM
#29
Drifting
Thread Starter
new corvette coupe cost for 1964,without options,$4,252.00.
That radio cost another $176.50.
Does that have power windows? (kinda looks like it)Cant tell from the pic. $59.20 was the option price and only 3,706 were ordered with that option.
22,229- 1964 corvettes were made, of which 8,304 were coupes.
I see no listing for the "Teak" steering wheel option for 1964.
3909 cars ermine white
19,034 cars were 4 speeds in 1964.option cost was $188.30
To sum it up, a 1964,ermine white,coupe,4 speed,AM/FM, with power windows, just might be "semi" rare. No more than3,706 could have been made. How many of the verts with power windows were made or coupes, of other colors, with power windows?
7 exterior colors were offered in 1964. If each color made had the same number of power window option ( which they didnt),529 would have been white, coupes and verts combined. For every 2 coupes made,they made 3 verts.(roughly).,My math and reasoning may be wrong,but does this mean that somewhere around 178 were built?
That radio cost another $176.50.
Does that have power windows? (kinda looks like it)Cant tell from the pic. $59.20 was the option price and only 3,706 were ordered with that option.
22,229- 1964 corvettes were made, of which 8,304 were coupes.
I see no listing for the "Teak" steering wheel option for 1964.
3909 cars ermine white
19,034 cars were 4 speeds in 1964.option cost was $188.30
To sum it up, a 1964,ermine white,coupe,4 speed,AM/FM, with power windows, just might be "semi" rare. No more than3,706 could have been made. How many of the verts with power windows were made or coupes, of other colors, with power windows?
7 exterior colors were offered in 1964. If each color made had the same number of power window option ( which they didnt),529 would have been white, coupes and verts combined. For every 2 coupes made,they made 3 verts.(roughly).,My math and reasoning may be wrong,but does this mean that somewhere around 178 were built?
If I remember my 2nd year Probability and Statistics correctly, you could figure out the probability of a particular combination and estimate the total numbers that way. You'd figure out the ratios for each option for the total number of cars built that year for the options it does have: [3909/22229 for Ermine White, 19034/22229 for 4-speed, etc], and the ratios for the options it doesn't have: [((22229-# of A/C cars)/22229) for example], then multiply the ratios together to get the probability for that specific combo - and then multiply it by the total number of cars produced to get an estimated number with that exact combo. Of course, it would just be an estimate, with the rarest option being the extreme upper limit, but it would be a pretty good indicator.
Or am I baked?
08-20-2007, 08:56 PM
#30
Drifting
Thread Starter
First Corvette Show
And so, after prowling the streets on the evenings of the first week with the car, and after spending a Saturday afternoon working on the interior, I took it to it's first Corvette show:
It was a little rainy in the morning, but as the day warmed up the crowd thickend (cars and people). and there was a nice selection of cars from a '58 to a '07 Z06. The people were super-nice, and seemed to get a kick out of the fact that I'd had it less than a week before finding my way to a show. Got some good pointers, had some good conversations, and am looking forward to the next event.
It was a little rainy in the morning, but as the day warmed up the crowd thickend (cars and people). and there was a nice selection of cars from a '58 to a '07 Z06. The people were super-nice, and seemed to get a kick out of the fact that I'd had it less than a week before finding my way to a show. Got some good pointers, had some good conversations, and am looking forward to the next event.
08-20-2007, 09:15 PM
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08-21-2007, 11:33 AM
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You've picked up a great little car at a fair price. You'll enjoy driving it and getting attention in traffic. I've owned lots of Corvettes and the most fun ones are the ones you're able to drive with little trouble. My driver is a '65 version of your car and I love it.
08-21-2007, 01:43 PM
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Glad to hear you are enjoying the car and driving it! [Note, these old cars have a built in device that knows JUST when you are at the farthest point away from home in your trip, whereupon they trigger some sort of disabling problem, often hard to diagnose on the road. Bring your cell phone with you
]
And have AAA's number in the speed dial. Been there!
08-22-2007, 05:16 PM
#34
Team Owner
Thanks for the feedback, info, and advice! I was experiencing post-purchase shock last night and didn't sleep super great. I felt like it was a good deal, and that I'd be able to sell it reasonably easily later on for a decent price when the time comes, it's good to get other opinions though.
I'll give it a good shake down after I get it on Monday, and I'll take it to the local Corvette show & shine next Sunday to meet the gang...
I'll see what paperwork I can get from the current owner for documentation, I'll look into the 'survivor' status and see whats involved and go from there. I figured it was built Jan/Feb based on the serial number info I found on-line, I'd be interested in decoding the plates and numbers further if anyone can point me in the right direction - or where to look for a build sheet (it has the correct 3782870 casting on the block to go with the 300HP 4-spd sn, I didn't get a picture of that yesterday).
Anyone know how to figure out production numbers by option? I saw that there were 8,304 base coupes built out of 22,229 total for '64 - is there a way to know how many coupes were 4-spds, white/black, etc?
And so it begins...
I'll give it a good shake down after I get it on Monday, and I'll take it to the local Corvette show & shine next Sunday to meet the gang...
I'll see what paperwork I can get from the current owner for documentation, I'll look into the 'survivor' status and see whats involved and go from there. I figured it was built Jan/Feb based on the serial number info I found on-line, I'd be interested in decoding the plates and numbers further if anyone can point me in the right direction - or where to look for a build sheet (it has the correct 3782870 casting on the block to go with the 300HP 4-spd sn, I didn't get a picture of that yesterday).
Anyone know how to figure out production numbers by option? I saw that there were 8,304 base coupes built out of 22,229 total for '64 - is there a way to know how many coupes were 4-spds, white/black, etc?
And so it begins...
Some production figures for the 64's.
BUILT 22,229
Coupe 8304
Blk int 7269
PW 3706
300HP 10,471
4speed 19034
AM/FM 20,934
No way of telling how many of each cars were built with the different mix of options.
08-23-2007, 11:57 AM
#36
Drifting
Thread Starter
Congrats, I also have a white 64 coupe except mine has a tan interior. Would you check something for me? On the emblem on your gas tank lid, is the flag on the left red or black? Mine is original, Oct 13, 63 build, and the left side flag is black and I know one one other early Oct build 64 that has the original emblem with the black flag instead of being red. From the photo of the rear of your car, it appears to be black, but that might just be the angle the photo. Thanks.
Some production figures for the 64's.
BUILT 22,229
Coupe 8304
Blk int 7269
PW 3706
300HP 10,471
4speed 19034
AM/FM 20,934
No way of telling how many of each cars were built with the different mix of options.
Some production figures for the 64's.
BUILT 22,229
Coupe 8304
Blk int 7269
PW 3706
300HP 10,471
4speed 19034
AM/FM 20,934
No way of telling how many of each cars were built with the different mix of options.
I've spent the last three nights giving the car a thorough once-over, and it seems to have liked it.
Last edited by darguy; 08-23-2007 at 02:25 PM.
08-23-2007, 12:51 PM
#37
Team Owner
The emblem on my gas tank lid does indeed have a black flag on the left (build date Feb 21, 64). The one on Eckler's for the '64 is red, as are the ones listed for the 63 and 65. Strange, eh?
I've spent the last thee nights giving the car a thorough once-over, and it seems to have liked it.
I've spent the last thee nights giving the car a thorough once-over, and it seems to have liked it.
If you don't mind checking another item for me. On the hood support, does yours have the hole in both telescoping pieces for a 1/4" bolt to go thru to look the hood in the upright position, or is the hole just in one of the pieces? Hope I made myself clear as to what info I'm looking for.
Like yours, my 64 has the original paint except for where I've touched it up. My original miles is ~63,000.
Thanks,
Joe.
08-23-2007, 03:31 PM
#38
Drifting
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...If you don't mind checking another item for me. On the hood support, does yours have the hole in both telescoping pieces for a 1/4" bolt to go thru to look the hood in the upright position, or is the hole just in one of the pieces? Hope I made myself clear as to what info I'm looking for.
Like yours, my 64 has the original paint except for where I've touched it up. My original miles is ~63,000.
Thanks,
Joe.
Like yours, my 64 has the original paint except for where I've touched it up. My original miles is ~63,000.
Thanks,
Joe.
I'm wondering how much of the paint may have been done on mine. There are a few indicators that it's been repainted (slightly different shade of white in the door jams, and some chips in the paint reveal white underneath) - although it must have been done a very long time ago. Mine reads ~65,000 miles.
08-23-2007, 10:47 PM
#39
Drifting
Thread Starter
Dodged that one so far... The first week of driving the car, I had to get a couple of jump starts, and now after having gone over the car pretty well, I've still got a couple of minor issues - although it sure responds well when you get underneath it for a couple hours at a time (I don't think it's been touched like that for some time 
).
The alternator was only putting out 26 A, rated 37 according to the stamp, so that would make it a approximately one diode off. Which in conjunction with the 1.9 A draw on the battery (making a guy need to get a jump start at the end of a work day) that goes away when you disconnect the 2-wire connector at the alternator (or regulator downstream in the circuit, but after replacing it the the problem persists) makes a guy rebuild his alternator.
So, the numbers on the alternator are:
1100668-37A
4B6 - 2 - N G
as far as I can tell. The question is, is it original, or has it been swapped out already? I've got my Black Book on order, so hopefully I can answer some of these questions on my own soon.
The other thing is that I need to get it on an exhaust analyser to set up the carb for emissions testing...
Other than that, .
).The alternator was only putting out 26 A, rated 37 according to the stamp, so that would make it a approximately one diode off. Which in conjunction with the 1.9 A draw on the battery (making a guy need to get a jump start at the end of a work day) that goes away when you disconnect the 2-wire connector at the alternator (or regulator downstream in the circuit, but after replacing it the the problem persists) makes a guy rebuild his alternator.
So, the numbers on the alternator are:
1100668-37A
4B6 - 2 - N G
as far as I can tell. The question is, is it original, or has it been swapped out already? I've got my Black Book on order, so hopefully I can answer some of these questions on my own soon.
The other thing is that I need to get it on an exhaust analyser to set up the carb for emissions testing...
Other than that,
.