Ralley Wheels & Tires / Assistance Please
#1
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Ralley Wheels & Tires / Assistance Please
I need to replace the tires on my 70'. Currently running 225/70 R15, Goodyears (10+ years old) on stock ralley wheels (15 x 4 I believe. How can I verify the rim size?)
According to TIRE RACK (www.tirerack.com), the stock tire for the 70' C3 was 205/75 R15 (can that be right?).
Questions:
1. Am I doing any damage running the larger 225's vs. 205's? (Since 1987 I've been running 225's with no apparent issues)
2. Two tires I'm considering:
a. Firestone Firehawk Indy 500. $66.00 ea. (ranked #1 on TIRE RACK).
b. Coker Tire BPGoodrich Redline Radial #18520 in 225/70 R15. $171.00 ea. (were redlines an option in 70'? Is this a unbranded TA Radial or one of lessor quality?)
Thanks for your input. I do appreciate the education.
Sincerely,
James1970
According to TIRE RACK (www.tirerack.com), the stock tire for the 70' C3 was 205/75 R15 (can that be right?).
Questions:
1. Am I doing any damage running the larger 225's vs. 205's? (Since 1987 I've been running 225's with no apparent issues)
2. Two tires I'm considering:
a. Firestone Firehawk Indy 500. $66.00 ea. (ranked #1 on TIRE RACK).
b. Coker Tire BPGoodrich Redline Radial #18520 in 225/70 R15. $171.00 ea. (were redlines an option in 70'? Is this a unbranded TA Radial or one of lessor quality?)
Thanks for your input. I do appreciate the education.
Sincerely,
James1970
#2
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15 X 8 you mean?
See if you can make out the code stamped in the wheel on either side of the valve stem.
1. no, 225/70 are no problem. Guys run wider tires and a common question is, "How wide can I go" but 225/70 are very close to the original size.
2. redlines look cool, but I don't think were an option in 1970
http://www.idavette.net/facts/70.htm
looks like white stripe and white letter were options.
Not sure what quality the coker repros are.
See if you can make out the code stamped in the wheel on either side of the valve stem.
1. no, 225/70 are no problem. Guys run wider tires and a common question is, "How wide can I go" but 225/70 are very close to the original size.
2. redlines look cool, but I don't think were an option in 1970
http://www.idavette.net/facts/70.htm
looks like white stripe and white letter were options.
Not sure what quality the coker repros are.
#4
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You have either 15x7 or 15x8 rims, on both you can fit a 225-70-15 tire without problems.
I just saw some nice whitewalls in 215-70-15 at the local Firestone shop, would look great on the rallies with the chrome trim rings. I think they sell these for around $50 each, it's one of their no-name brands, Futura or something ...
I just saw some nice whitewalls in 215-70-15 at the local Firestone shop, would look great on the rallies with the chrome trim rings. I think they sell these for around $50 each, it's one of their no-name brands, Futura or something ...
#5
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PRNDL,
Thanks for the 70' specification link. I'll check the rims this evening to verify they're 15 x 8 (thanks for catching my typo).
Believe I'll stay with the 225/R70-15's. Out of curiosity, what size would provide a slightly wider tread?
Finally, although I love the look of redlines, since they were not offered in 70', would clash against my Monza Red paint (more orange than red), and cost almost 3X more than a standard radial replacement, it's raised white letters once again!
Thanks to all forum members for your input.
Best Regards,
James1970
Thanks for the 70' specification link. I'll check the rims this evening to verify they're 15 x 8 (thanks for catching my typo).
Believe I'll stay with the 225/R70-15's. Out of curiosity, what size would provide a slightly wider tread?
Finally, although I love the look of redlines, since they were not offered in 70', would clash against my Monza Red paint (more orange than red), and cost almost 3X more than a standard radial replacement, it's raised white letters once again!
Thanks to all forum members for your input.
Best Regards,
James1970
#6
Le Mans Master
Originally Posted by James1970
Believe I'll stay with the 225/R70-15's. Out of curiosity, what size would provide a slightly wider tread?
front 245-60-15, rear 255-60-15
that's on the safe side, it won't rub
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Originally Posted by RedBad1979
front 245-60-15, rear 255-60-15
that's on the safe side, it won't rub
that's on the safe side, it won't rub
I noticed that Mid America is selling 255/60-R15's (no 245's offered, hmmm?). You SURE these are compatible with the 15 x 8 Rally rim? Any turning / handling / fender issues I should be aware of?
I'd love the look of a wider tire but as you can see, I'm apprehensive.
Regards,
James
#8
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Originally Posted by James1970
I noticed that Mid America is selling 255/60-R15's (no 245's offered, hmmm?). You SURE these are compatible with the 15 x 8 Rally rim? Any turning / handling / fender issues I should be aware of?
I'd love the look of a wider tire but as you can see, I'm apprehensive.
Regards,
James
I'd love the look of a wider tire but as you can see, I'm apprehensive.
Regards,
James
I'd get the tires locally, Discounttire (www.tires.com) should have several brands for $60 and up.
turning and handling issues ? Yes, it will be better than with the 225-70s
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Originally Posted by James1970
I noticed that Mid America is selling 255/60-R15's (no 245's offered, hmmm?). You SURE these are compatible with the 15 x 8 Rally rim? Any turning / handling / fender issues I should be aware of?
I'd love the look of a wider tire but as you can see, I'm apprehensive.
Regards,
James
I'd love the look of a wider tire but as you can see, I'm apprehensive.
Regards,
James
#11
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Here is a neat calculator that lets you compare, and SEE 2 different tire sizes overlaid.
http://www.miata.net/garage/tirecalc.html
Another thing to consider is that wider tires may look cool, but they can make your car much harder to handle, at least it did mine. Especially if your steering is a little loose to begin with, the wider tires will follow ruts in the road. I got a significant improvement in handling when I went from 235/60 to 225/70 tires.
http://www.miata.net/garage/tirecalc.html
Another thing to consider is that wider tires may look cool, but they can make your car much harder to handle, at least it did mine. Especially if your steering is a little loose to begin with, the wider tires will follow ruts in the road. I got a significant improvement in handling when I went from 235/60 to 225/70 tires.
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Originally Posted by PRNDL
Another thing to consider is that wider tires may look cool, but they can make your car much harder to handle, at least it did mine. Especially if your steering is a little loose to begin with, the wider tires will follow ruts in the road. I got a significant improvement in handling when I went from 235/60 to 225/70 tires.
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Thanks to all for the additional information.
PRNDL: That tire calculator link is very cool!
RedBad79: Great insight!
KW: Thanks for posting the photos! I can now envision the difference.
Starting to lean toward the 255's.
Best Regards,
James
PRNDL: That tire calculator link is very cool!
RedBad79: Great insight!
KW: Thanks for posting the photos! I can now envision the difference.
Starting to lean toward the 255's.
Best Regards,
James
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I run 255 60 R15 on all 4 corners with Rally’s. No rubbing at all. I do have offset t-arms but I was running the 255's before I installed them. One day I want to go to 10-inch rims on the back so I upgraded to the offset t-arms. Most people complain about the 255's rubbing up front. I am running Goodyear Eagle GT2's
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Stock size on mine- the 215's. No need for bigger since I don't abuse the old '68. And I don't have issues with rubbing, wandering, or speedometer error.
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Originally Posted by RedBad1979
front 245-60-15, rear 255-60-15
that's on the safe side, it won't rub
that's on the safe side, it won't rub
New tires scheduled for March and am staying with the same sizes.