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Old 11-03-2009, 07:07 PM   #1
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Default GM's new crate engine of the future...the ERod

to satisfy the Euro-weenie enviro nutjobs.



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Old 11-03-2009, 07:11 PM   #2
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to satisfy the Euro-weenie enviro nutjobs.
or anyone who realizes you dont need to dump tons of crap out your exhaust to go fast
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Old 11-03-2009, 07:22 PM   #3
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Old 11-03-2009, 07:25 PM   #4
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Old 11-03-2009, 07:37 PM   #5
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far cheaper ways to get 400 horse at 5 grand
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Old 11-03-2009, 07:45 PM   #6
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or anyone who realizes you dont need to dump tons of crap out your exhaust to go fast
I suggest you get a edjumakshun maybe go to a good school, not one studying enviro science....???

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Old 11-03-2009, 08:18 PM   #7
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comes out of my exhaust dude. Now take an F-4 Phantom.....


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Old 11-03-2009, 08:26 PM   #8
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This is just marketing. The kit is an LS3 with all the smog stuff and an emissions tune in the computer. Not even E-85 or flex fuel. This is really no different than any other LS swap.
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Old 11-03-2009, 08:39 PM   #9
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Wouldn't it be cheaper to buy a totaled out newer vette, GTO, or a
Camaro and retrieve all the goods out of one of them, then scrap or
part out the rest, might be a little more work but in the end should be
cheaper.

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Old 11-04-2009, 04:22 PM   #10
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This is just marketing. The kit is an LS3 with all the smog stuff and an emissions tune in the computer. Not even E-85 or flex fuel. This is really no different than any other LS swap.
If you lived in California it would be significantly different:

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GMPP worked closely with the influential California Air Resources Board (CARB) and secured approval that makes E-ROD-equipped vehicles compliant in California and other areas that mirror CARB's recommendations and emissions standards.
No other LS swap can make this claim - NOT A ONE - yes its expensive, but by having an EO number from CARB there is no need for a referee station to review the install which is major headache.

If I had 8 grand to throw away on my worthless 78 I'd do it in a second.
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Old 11-04-2009, 05:18 PM   #11
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If you lived in California it would be significantly different:



No other LS swap can make this claim - NOT A ONE - yes its expensive, but by having an EO number from CARB there is no need for a referee station to review the install which is major headache.

If I had 8 grand to throw away on my worthless 78 I'd do it in a second.
It seems like a good choice if one lives in a state with stricter emissions laws.
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If you lived in California it would be significantly different:



No other LS swap can make this claim - NOT A ONE - yes its expensive, but by having an EO number from CARB there is no need for a referee station to review the install which is major headache.

If I had 8 grand to throw away on my worthless 78 I'd do it in a second.
I would gladly take that 78 off your hands. But I have a feeling it's not for sale


I hope in the coming years there will be many more powerplant options.

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Old 11-04-2009, 06:22 PM   #13
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Default That's why I live in NC....

and not CA. Lived in AZ,NM,etc 'cause I was govt property for a long time. Then drove big Peterbuilts to CA to San Joaquin Valley and hauled back produce - that valley is/was one of the prettiest you'd ever see until Nazi Nancy Pelosi and her friends cut the water supply off to the farmers, now it is a desert. BTW, wonder if she would give up her water supply to her vineyards? I can think of a way to do it, but it would be very,very loud.
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Old 11-04-2009, 11:35 PM   #15
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At first glance I did not realize the swap is CARB compliant, now the price tag makes more sense. It is very expensive to have components, let alone an entire engine certified as a compliant swap with the CARB. Since the state of California does not require vehicles older than those with a 1976 production date to be inspected, the point of installing a compliant engine is mute. This is one reason why I chose to restore a classic 1969 corvette. On the other hand, it is cool that the engine produces that ammount of power and torque while running clean.
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Old 11-05-2009, 07:39 AM   #16
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I think this idea is fine. It's a little expensive, but aren't all crate engine expensive? To have a CARB exempt engine is nice thing in my eyes. I believe this means you could potentially put the engine in a OBD II car and not have any weird emissions issues. Over by me, that's a big deal.
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Old 11-05-2009, 08:29 AM   #17
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Is that called the "Eh-rod" in Canada? :o
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Old 11-05-2009, 09:12 AM   #18
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Kudos to GM for actually going to the trouble to get a CARB compliant swap put together. does Ford have one?, Chrysler? Sooner or later the cars that people will be working on will be cars that still require testing.

I have to imagine though the costs and paperwork to get a motor swap to be CARB compliant arent negligible.
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Old 11-06-2009, 12:00 AM   #19
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I'd consider this (if I had the money). Mine is my DD for the summer, so fuel efficiency is somewhat of a concern for me. I want power, but I'm not out hot rodding up and down the main street or anything. Plus, no carburetor is a huge plus imo.
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Old 11-07-2009, 12:39 AM   #20
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If your going to do it you might as well go all in
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