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Old 06-17-2011, 11:14 AM
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how much fuel pressure should there be?

I just installed a gauge.
Old 06-17-2011, 11:56 AM
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i run 5 psi off a regulated electric fuel pump.(to a carb of course).mechanical guys will chime in.
Old 06-17-2011, 01:14 PM
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I run between 6 and 7 PSI. Mechanical to a Qjet.
Old 06-17-2011, 01:32 PM
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Pressure is meaningless except on EFI. Flow is important on a carb.

I will never understand why carb guys endlessly farque around with pumps, regulators and gauges. Close the hood an drive it.
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Originally Posted by Mike Ward
Pressure is meaningless except on EFI. Flow is important on a carb.

I will never understand why carb guys endlessly farque around with pumps, regulators and gauges. Close the hood an drive it.
Mike I agree with you for the most part, though fuel pressure can be an issue for a carburated system particularly if you run too high a pressure. For instance, Qjets don't typically like over about 7psi. Over that can cause all sorts of BS. Depending on the pump you run, you may need a regulator to hold down the pressure. If that's the case, then obviously you'd want a guage so you know where your at. For stock (or mostly stock) systems, I agree pressure shouldn't be an issue...
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"Carb guys", like me, just like to farque around-its what we do.
Just let us be. And my "flow" is fine-its linoleum.
Old 06-20-2011, 09:07 AM
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Originally Posted by damoroso
Mike I agree with you for the most part, though fuel pressure can be an issue for a carburated system particularly if you run too high a pressure.
That's exactly my point- guys reading too many Hot Rod magazines and falling for the glossy 'racing pumps' that give the impression that somehow a higher pressure pump will deliver more HP. As you correctly pointed out, too much pressure will just overwhelm the needle and float.
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I run a pro-systems 750cfm (custom built holley hp) and the carb builder said to make sure fuel pressure stays around 7-7.5psi throughout whole rpm range.

last year I had a 750cfm mighty demon carb with a 80gph mech pump and it made 7.5psi of fuel pressue at idle/cruise but would drop to 3-4psi at WOT. It made 327rwhp 380rwtq on chasis dyno. I swapped to a 110gph mech pump at the dyno shop and power went up to 365rwhp 410rwtq and fuel curve looked alot better. I still get a drop from 7.5psi down to 5psi... The dyno guy and carb guy told me i would make more power with bigger pump and holding 7.5psi. I'm swapping to an aeromotive electric pump and bigger feed lines soon and will be going back to dyno. I have a reg set for 7.5psi...i plan on adding 125hp shot of nitrous to my set up so I have upgrade fuel system anyway.

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Old 06-21-2011, 02:59 AM
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Originally Posted by Raffman
how much fuel pressure should there be?

I just installed a gauge.
What carb do you run?

For my Holley the recomendation is between 5 and 7 psi.

At ALL times (from idle to WOT).

If you have a higher pressure there is a risk of the fuelpressure pushing down the needlevalves/floats and the carb is flooding.

//Ricky.
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Originally Posted by L-82kid

last year I had a 750cfm mighty demon carb with a 80gph mech pump and it made 7.5psi of fuel pressue at idle/cruise but would drop to 3-4psi at WOT. It made 327rwhp 380rwtq on chasis dyno. I swapped to a 110gph mech pump at the dyno shop and power went up to 365rwhp 410rwtq and fuel curve looked alot better. I still get a drop from 7.5psi down to 5psi... The dyno guy and carb guy told me i would make more power with bigger pump and holding 7.5psi.
And there you have an example of what I was saying- it's flow that counts, not pressure.
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Originally Posted by Mike Ward
And there you have an example of what I was saying- it's flow that counts, not pressure.
but isn't a drop in pressure at WOT an indication that the flow is not great enough to feed motor?
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Originally Posted by L-82kid
but isn't a drop in pressure at WOT an indication that the flow is not great enough to feed motor?
As an indirect measurement, yes. This is why flow capacity of a pump is relevant- 'high performance high pressure ' pumps are not.

If two pumps have the same flow capacity but the 'performance ' version simply does it at higher pressure, nothing is gained.

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