4 post lift sway
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Racer
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4 post lift sway
My wife and I just installed our new Directlift propark 8s in our garage (her idea, aren't I lucky!) It is leveled and as far as I can tell ready to go. We have been going slow putting our c3 up and down one locking height at a time. Everything is strong and firm up to half way, the higher we go past half way the more it sways. We need to put it up to the second to last lock position to fit our c4 under, it sways about 2 inches left to right when we push on the posts when it is that high, It would be nice to put it up all the way to work under it but I'm afraid to do that before I'm sure the sway is normal. I just don't think I would feel comfortable putting a lot of torque on a bolt when it is at the highest position. Are they all this way or did I do something wrong. Thanks
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Drifting
I don't know anything about Directlift 4-post lifts, but I've had a 4-post lift (Backyard Buddy) for 6 years. It doesn't sway at all, and we've done some heavy pushing and pulling under the car at 5 feet or so.
Can you see any slop anywhere when it sways? Any gaps that change width as it moves? Wouldn't that be nice if the problem was fixed by a simple adjustment? It will be interesting to hear what the manufacturer has to say.
Can you see any slop anywhere when it sways? Any gaps that change width as it moves? Wouldn't that be nice if the problem was fixed by a simple adjustment? It will be interesting to hear what the manufacturer has to say.
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I wouldn't say mine swayed, but it WOULD move a bit if you put the effort into it.
Maybe the high $$$ ones don't move at all but I can't help but think you put 3500+lbs. 6 feet in the air on 4 posts there will be some movement if you tried to move it.
Anyway, because it was convenient for me and added a little piece of mind I added the struts to each post. Also note the mirror on the wall, really helps line up on the lift.
8 years with no problems.....
Maybe the high $$$ ones don't move at all but I can't help but think you put 3500+lbs. 6 feet in the air on 4 posts there will be some movement if you tried to move it.
Anyway, because it was convenient for me and added a little piece of mind I added the struts to each post. Also note the mirror on the wall, really helps line up on the lift.
8 years with no problems.....
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I wouldn't say mine swayed, but it WOULD move a bit if you put the effort into it.
Maybe the high $$$ ones don't move at all but I can't help but think you put 3500+lbs. 6 feet in the air on 4 posts there will be some movement if you tried to move it.
Anyway, because it was convenient for me and added a little piece of mind I added the struts to each post. Also note the mirror on the wall, really helps line up on the lift.
8 years with no problems.....
Maybe the high $$$ ones don't move at all but I can't help but think you put 3500+lbs. 6 feet in the air on 4 posts there will be some movement if you tried to move it.
Anyway, because it was convenient for me and added a little piece of mind I added the struts to each post. Also note the mirror on the wall, really helps line up on the lift.
8 years with no problems.....
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Le Mans Master
I've been using a 4 poster made by Premier Lifts in TX for awhile now, and things basically rock solid with a 3800 lb car on it. Don't know what you paid for yours, but mine was $3K ten years ago. Strange you having to go nearly to the top, as have a 48" C6 under mine, and still have four more 4-1/2" stops to go.
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Racer
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I've been using a 4 poster made by Premier Lifts in TX for awhile now, and things basically rock solid with a 3800 lb car on it. Don't know what you paid for yours, but mine was $3K ten years ago. Strange you having to go nearly to the top, as have a 48" C6 under mine, and still have four more 4-1/2" stops to go.
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From what I have read most of open channel 4 post lifts are all the same. We were going to buy an Atlas 8k lift from Greg Smih Eauipment in Arizona (who also sells Drlirectlift for $300 more) when I called they said that both lifts are exactly the same in every way. I found out that Directlift has a warehouse here in Denver. The fact that the Direct lift was certified (most others are not) and that I could just go pick one up local made me go with the Directlift.
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Le Mans Master
Mines at 50" clear, and only took it to the next 54-1/2" stop couple times, because of ceiling and garage door issues for the top car. Never actually had the lift to the top of it's range, but pretty rock solid where it's at. A little freaky driving a 48" car under it at first with only 2" clearance, but managed to get over it.
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Here is my 2cents. Check for equal distance between the legs length, width, and diagnal, they should all be about the same. On ours we even added some floor plates that were 2'x2' to the base of the legs to help spread the load over the floor (not sure of the old concrete thickness). Then I did put 2 3/4" bolts thru the floor plates and into the floor and epoxy them in also. Our unit is 18' long and holds 12k#, and we never stand under it while raising lowering and when we set it on the locks we put a little tension on it to keep it tight.
Good Luck wro87
Good Luck wro87
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If the lift is black it is likely manufactured in China, which is fine. They are self leveling and, according to my distributor (Techlifts, Attleboro, Mass), should not be bolted to the floor.
If your floor is level and the locks are centered in the channels, you are probably fine. If I have to exert some force when wrenching at full height there is some movement but not enough to make me worry. I have had mine for about 4 years and have had no issues. You will become more comfortable with the passage of time. Just be attentive when lifting or lowering
If your floor is level and the locks are centered in the channels, you are probably fine. If I have to exert some force when wrenching at full height there is some movement but not enough to make me worry. I have had mine for about 4 years and have had no issues. You will become more comfortable with the passage of time. Just be attentive when lifting or lowering
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Burning Brakes
I had the same lift and it did sway a bit when all the way up and a C3 on it. I stored one of my other Vettes under it and used it to work on all my cars. Never had an issue.
The mfg does not recommend that it be securred at the top.
The mfg does not recommend that it be securred at the top.
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Mines at 50" clear, and only took it to the next 54-1/2" stop couple times, because of ceiling and garage door issues for the top car. Never actually had the lift to the top of it's range, but pretty rock solid where it's at. A little freaky driving a 48" car under it at first with only 2" clearance, but managed to get over it.
I will be stacking a C3 & C4 - both around 48".
Thanks,
John
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Burning Brakes
Here is a photo of our two post lift, with support plates. I like the idea of having so many lifting options. The lift is exteamly stable, no wobbles at all. Just an idea. Al
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Directlifts are made in an ISO9001 compliant factory located in Haimen, China.
Of the top 10 countries for ISO 9001 certificates in 2009, China ranked #1.
Seeing as CHINA is known worldwide for their top quality workmanship, you probably have nothing to worry about. Perhaps that sway is built in on purpose in case of earthquake?
Of the top 10 countries for ISO 9001 certificates in 2009, China ranked #1.
Seeing as CHINA is known worldwide for their top quality workmanship, you probably have nothing to worry about. Perhaps that sway is built in on purpose in case of earthquake?
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Team Owner
If the bottom plates for the main uprights are not exactly square with the uprights...or flat with the floor..., you may get a bit of sway when you raise the lift with weight (car) on it. I had the same thing. It bothered me for a while, but I got used to it.
Then, I decided to resolve that little issue and eliminate any possibility of slippage. I bought a thick rubber mat at Lowe's (about 3/8" thick, black rubber, with perforations); the mat is about 2 feet by 3 feet in size....found in the "Carpeting" area. (The mat is used for individuals who stand on concrete doing work for long periods of time.)
I cut four pieces from it that are the same size as the bottom plates on the uprights. Put the wheels on the rig and raise the uprights off the floor a bit. Then used "Liquid Nails" adhesive to stick the pads to the underside of the bottom plates. Dropped the rig back down on the uprights and let the adhesive cure. Done deal!!! No more sway...no possible slippage. Worked great.
P.S. ISO certification has very little to do with "good" quality. It is a certification that a company is actually following its own procedures regarding Quality. Now, if those procedures don't really provide for a quality product, that's not really a concern of the ISO certification. [Strange...but true. I carried an ISO auditor certification prior to my retirement]
Then, I decided to resolve that little issue and eliminate any possibility of slippage. I bought a thick rubber mat at Lowe's (about 3/8" thick, black rubber, with perforations); the mat is about 2 feet by 3 feet in size....found in the "Carpeting" area. (The mat is used for individuals who stand on concrete doing work for long periods of time.)
I cut four pieces from it that are the same size as the bottom plates on the uprights. Put the wheels on the rig and raise the uprights off the floor a bit. Then used "Liquid Nails" adhesive to stick the pads to the underside of the bottom plates. Dropped the rig back down on the uprights and let the adhesive cure. Done deal!!! No more sway...no possible slippage. Worked great.
P.S. ISO certification has very little to do with "good" quality. It is a certification that a company is actually following its own procedures regarding Quality. Now, if those procedures don't really provide for a quality product, that's not really a concern of the ISO certification. [Strange...but true. I carried an ISO auditor certification prior to my retirement]
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