Reproduction Jacks
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Reproduction Jacks
This post is probably more directed at C1, C2 and C3 owners..but I thought I would throw it out there anyway...and try to get some feedback. I recently bought a 69 Corvette coupe..and I also have
a 65 converible. Both of these cars came without a jack, lugwrench
handle..etc. I went online to places like Corvette Central..and they have reproduction versons of the stock jacks. BUT they say these are for DISPLAY ONLY since they don't meet the more ridgid safety standards of the current jacks.
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My question is: if these jacks offered are for display only...what are we suppose to use for a jack that we would actual use? Also..if these repro jacks are the same as the originals...and hence...not as safe..
what about all those Corvette owners that used these jacks all these years, since when their cars were new???...I don't remember hearing about any failures or accidents with the original jacks. So..what is the solution ? thanks
Jeff
a 65 converible. Both of these cars came without a jack, lugwrench
handle..etc. I went online to places like Corvette Central..and they have reproduction versons of the stock jacks. BUT they say these are for DISPLAY ONLY since they don't meet the more ridgid safety standards of the current jacks.
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My question is: if these jacks offered are for display only...what are we suppose to use for a jack that we would actual use? Also..if these repro jacks are the same as the originals...and hence...not as safe..
what about all those Corvette owners that used these jacks all these years, since when their cars were new???...I don't remember hearing about any failures or accidents with the original jacks. So..what is the solution ? thanks
Jeff
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A used original in good shape is almost always better than a reproduction.
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I'd guess that even a carbon copy of the original no longer meets safety specs . . .so, to cover themselves from liability, the manufacturers caution that it's for demonstraton or exhibit only . . that way if you use it and something goes wrong- they're off the hook.
I always use my floor jack home in the garage rather than dig out the one in the bottom of the cubby - - plus, every time I try to get that thing outta there in every C3 I've owned, I tear the heck outta my fingers and hand on that darned spring . . .
I always use my floor jack home in the garage rather than dig out the one in the bottom of the cubby - - plus, every time I try to get that thing outta there in every C3 I've owned, I tear the heck outta my fingers and hand on that darned spring . . .
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Interesting question. Are the origial jacks dangerous, or just the reproductions? Was it the design that was faulty? Has jack technology progressed that much in 35 years?
Let's see if anyone has an authoritative answer...
Let's see if anyone has an authoritative answer...
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My original jack just broke yesterday! It basically broke in the worst way - clunk and car dropped straight down. Luckily I had all four tires on and it only dropped a couple inches as I was just starting to jack one corner up. I'd use another jack for sure unless you have to change your tire on the side of the road, and never get under it if it is supported by just the jack. I had been using mine a lot lately when I shouldn't have because I was too lazy to go buy a garage jack. It worked great until it didn't.
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Roadside use only
My plan was not only to get a jack so the car would be closer to the way it came from the factory...but to use, if I ever had a flat out on the road. Even when I owned the 69 when it was new..I never used
the jack out of the car, for doing anything but changing a tire. NO WAY
would I crawl under a car and only depend on one of those jacks to keep it up.
the jack out of the car, for doing anything but changing a tire. NO WAY
would I crawl under a car and only depend on one of those jacks to keep it up.
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My original jack just broke yesterday! It basically broke in the worst way - clunk and car dropped straight down. Luckily I had all four tires on and it only dropped a couple inches as I was just starting to jack one corner up. I'd use another jack for sure unless you have to change your tire on the side of the road, and never get under it if it is supported by just the jack. I had been using mine a lot lately when I shouldn't have because I was too lazy to go buy a garage jack. It worked great until it didn't.
Pete
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Same situation here. No jack and looking at the options, original or new reproduction. I would only use it if I had a flat on the road, which hopefully is never. But a jack that you can’t use as a jack is not a jack.
So has anyone here bought one of the “display purpose only” reproductions and actually used it?
Interestingly, Corvette America doesn’t have that disclaimer, either on their website or in their physical catalog.
So has anyone here bought one of the “display purpose only” reproductions and actually used it?
Interestingly, Corvette America doesn’t have that disclaimer, either on their website or in their physical catalog.
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The female threading disintegrated and it just pushed through. The white stuff is lithium grease. I heard some squeaking near the end of its life.
I am now using a rolling hydraulic jack that is 10x faster than the scissor style. $25 at walmart. I saw a new scissor jack for sale similar to the OEM one and it was only rated at 1.5ton, less than the 'vette. Just to give you an idea of why its probably not a good idea to use for anything other than emergency tire changes.
I was using jack stands, by the way. I would never get under the car supported by that thing. I dislike being under it even with the stands as it is.
I am now using a rolling hydraulic jack that is 10x faster than the scissor style. $25 at walmart. I saw a new scissor jack for sale similar to the OEM one and it was only rated at 1.5ton, less than the 'vette. Just to give you an idea of why its probably not a good idea to use for anything other than emergency tire changes.
I was using jack stands, by the way. I would never get under the car supported by that thing. I dislike being under it even with the stands as it is.
Last edited by brianPA; 09-10-2012 at 10:24 PM.
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I don't think that there is anything inherently unsafe about the design of the original or reproduction, scissor jacks. Chevrolet still includes scissor jacks with all of their trucks, and they're made from a much thinner gauge steel, than the original Corvette jacks.
The main reason that the reproduction jacks are sold as "display only", is for liability reasons, as CQRT suggested. At least one maker of the repro jacks is a small "cottage" company. They are not in the position to have the kind of liability insurance needed. It's just easier and safer for them to sell them as display items.
As far as safety of an original jack, I think it really depends on the condition of the jack. If it's a jack that has seen a lot of use, or is rusty from sitting in a wet storage well, I'd be careful about using it. If it's a jack like the one in my 81, that has never been out of it's compartment, I wouldn't hesitate to use it. I don't know if I would be to quick to use a 30-40 year old Corvette jack, that had been used regularly around the shop though.
Because scissor jacks are safer and better than bumper jacks, a lot of people have regularly used their Corvette jack, for other projects. This is probably why so many Corvettes are missing their jacks.
No matter what condition a jack is in, or what kind of jack it is, I'll never go under a car that's on a jack. When jacking up a car, I always use jack stands, even if I'm not going under it. It's the only way to be sure your safe!
The main reason that the reproduction jacks are sold as "display only", is for liability reasons, as CQRT suggested. At least one maker of the repro jacks is a small "cottage" company. They are not in the position to have the kind of liability insurance needed. It's just easier and safer for them to sell them as display items.
As far as safety of an original jack, I think it really depends on the condition of the jack. If it's a jack that has seen a lot of use, or is rusty from sitting in a wet storage well, I'd be careful about using it. If it's a jack like the one in my 81, that has never been out of it's compartment, I wouldn't hesitate to use it. I don't know if I would be to quick to use a 30-40 year old Corvette jack, that had been used regularly around the shop though.
Because scissor jacks are safer and better than bumper jacks, a lot of people have regularly used their Corvette jack, for other projects. This is probably why so many Corvettes are missing their jacks.
No matter what condition a jack is in, or what kind of jack it is, I'll never go under a car that's on a jack. When jacking up a car, I always use jack stands, even if I'm not going under it. It's the only way to be sure your safe!
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Melting Slicks
That stock jack is unstable at the slightlest angle. I have mine, but I use a small bottle jack for on the road. In the garage I use a rolling floor jack.
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#17
I have AAA and have used it three times in 20 years for minor issues. First time they arrived in about an hour. Next two times I waited about 3 hours. I would much rather be on my way in 10 minutes after changing my own tire.