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Could someone post a photo of your original windshield pillar VIN tag rivet? I don't need the whole VIN tag if you're nervous about that sort of thing, but I'd like to see what the original rivets looked like since I think the windshield part of my birdcage was replace and the VIN reattached with normal rivets.
Could someone post a photo of your original windshield pillar VIN tag rivet? I don't need the whole VIN tag if you're nervous about that sort of thing, but I'd like to see what the original rivets looked like since I think the windshield part of my birdcage was replace and the VIN reattached with normal rivets.
Thanks!
It's the best I could do. Hope it helps. They look like a star or gear.
I have been on forums where this subject is taboo and the threads get killed but I would really love to know what the ncrs fellows do to replace the vin tag rivets when everything I have read says you simply can't tamper with them, and round wrong rivets might get a car impounded...
I have been on forums where this subject is taboo and the threads get killed but I would really love to know what the ncrs fellows do to replace the vin tag rivets when everything I have read says you simply can't tamper with them, and round wrong rivets might get a car impounded...
"I have been on forums where this subject is taboo and the threads get killed but I would really love to know what the ncrs fellows do to replace the vin tag rivets when everything I have read says you simply can't tamper with them, and round wrong rivets might get a car impounded"
Originally Posted by Mike Ward
Again with the misinformation.............
If you have something helpful to add please do but to just say I posted misinfomation doesn't help.
I didn't say anything I posted was fact, I posted it in a questioning way.
I have read all that I posted above on forums some of it even right here, it's all over Google.
If you have something helpful to add please do but to just say I posted misinfomation doesn't help.
I didn't say anything I posted was fact, I posted it in a questioning way.
I have read all that I posted above on forums some of it even right here, it's all over Google.
If you have only half truths, rumours and speculation to post, don't post it. Pretty simple.
Could someone post a photo of your original windshield pillar VIN tag rivet? I don't need the whole VIN tag if you're nervous about that sort of thing, but I'd like to see what the original rivets looked like since I think the windshield part of my birdcage was replace and the VIN reattached with normal rivets.
Thanks!
I have my windshield out so can get a good picture of it... Check back in a hour or so
His post can be taken to mean that the NCRS could cause a car to be impounded. 'NCRS' doesn't have a policy or process for replacing rivets, they're not the police. Each state/province has it's own laws WRT tampering with VIN plates and a process to reattach or replace one.
If 'NCRS' is now being used as a generic term to mean 'a person who restores a car to factory original', there's no difference I know of that gives a resto mod or custom any special exemptions.
His post can be taken to mean that the NCRS could cause a car to be impounded. 'NCRS' doesn't have a policy or process for replacing rivets, they're not the police. Each state/province has it's own laws WRT tampering with VIN plates and a process to reattach or replace one.
If 'NCRS' is now being used as a generic term to mean 'a person who restores a car to factory original', there's no difference I know of that gives a resto mod or custom any special exemptions.
That reminds me of when I was building my 37 Dodge PU, the sheriff came out to inspect the vehicle to get the first title, They used the wrong number and used the cab # not the vin, I took to Vin plate and cab plate off and went to the DMV to get the correct vin on the title with some explanation of the Dodge vin in 1937. They went nuts... told me I could not do that.... I showed them the 4 screws that hold them on....
His post can be taken to mean that the NCRS could cause a car to be impounded. 'NCRS' doesn't have a policy or process for replacing rivets, they're not the police. ...
That's an absurd interpretation of the question, Mike. Reading it as it was written can lead you only to nothing more than a question on what does someone doing an authentic restoration do in this situation. NCRS is being used more of a noun these days to mean a very high presentation standard, not a reference to the institution itself.
Explain to me how NCRS can be used and not reference the organization? It is an acronym, not a noun.
Actually, it's not an acronym. An acronym can be pronounced, like NATO. It is an abbreviation if it can't be pronounced. I don't know what I can explain to you that would clear the blockage. Think about how we use the words Xerox, diesel, and Kleenex. If he had written "The NCRS" that would be different and would be referring to the institution. This is not even worth further commentary and not something I and likely nearly everyone else on this forum will get wrapped around the axle over so write what you wish in response.
Hi WB,
As usual my knowledge/opinion is based on one car.
71 6589 had/has unpainted rivets, and a vin plate with a dark, very thin, 'finish' on it.
The 'finish' appears to have been on the plate before the imprint was done because where the numbers 'bulged' and stretched the metal the finish is lighter in color. You can see that in the picture.
The next time I restore the car I'll take a picture of the area UNDER the plate. I'm betting it'll be black under there; not green!
Note that this car didn't have a leaky windshield, so the plate and rivets maintained their original finishes quite well. Look how 'brite' the rivets are.
What thinks you?
Alan
That's an absurd interpretation of the question, Mike. Reading it as it was written can lead you only to nothing more than a question on what does someone doing an authentic restoration do in this situation. NCRS is being used more of a noun these days to mean a very high presentation standard, not a reference to the institution itself.
So what then is the relevance of mentioning NCRS in the post since ALL cars must have a legal VIN tag of some sort?
10-21-2014, 09:22 AM
Need VIN Tag Rivet photo
