Cutting Front Springs
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Cutting Front Springs
When cutting the front springs do you cut the top or bottom of the spring? I need to lower my front end about a 1.5 inches. They are currently 550# springs and I also need to know how much to cut? Thanks, Rod
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It is my impresion that when you cut springs, the heat from the cutting takes the temper out of the metal, then before you know it, your spring goes flat. Be careful.
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Originally Posted by bryan27
It is my impresion that when you cut springs, the heat from the cutting takes the temper out of the metal, then before you know it, your spring goes flat. Be careful.
My car had a floor to fender well height of 29" before I took the front end down this week. It had wayyy to much room over the 255/60r15 tires.
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Originally Posted by Red73
When cutting the front springs do you cut the top or bottom of the spring? I need to lower my front end about a 1.5 inches. They are currently 550# springs and I also need to know how much to cut? Thanks, Rod
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Rod - Cut out 1/2 a turn and it takes out an inch of spring. One inch of spring is @ 1.5 inches of body lowering.
I got my front end too low and was worried about my tires hitting the wheel well. So I cut a couple of donuts out of 3/8ths conveyor steel belted rubber to space the body back up. It got me another 1/2 inch back.
This is a 5/8th open end
I got my front end too low and was worried about my tires hitting the wheel well. So I cut a couple of donuts out of 3/8ths conveyor steel belted rubber to space the body back up. It got me another 1/2 inch back.
This is a 5/8th open end
#6
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Originally Posted by gkull
Rod - Cut out 1/2 a turn and it takes out an inch of spring. One inch of spring is @ 1.5 inches of body lowering.
I got my front end too low and was worried about my tires hitting the wheel well. So I cut a couple of donuts out of 3/8ths conveyor steel belted rubber to space the body back up. It got me another 1/2 inch back.
This is a 5/8th open end
I got my front end too low and was worried about my tires hitting the wheel well. So I cut a couple of donuts out of 3/8ths conveyor steel belted rubber to space the body back up. It got me another 1/2 inch back.
This is a 5/8th open end
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Under the spring. The only spacers I could find were the VB&P one inch and that was to much. So I went to plan "B"
My tires because of 9 inch wheels are outside the body. so contact was just a matter of time.
My tires because of 9 inch wheels are outside the body. so contact was just a matter of time.
#8
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The only problem with affecting heat treating when cutting springs is if you torch them. Use a cutoff wheel and the heat is relatively low and localised.
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Originally Posted by Jughead
Make sure the top of the spring is properly seated in its socket. Bottom doesn't matter. .
Steve
#10
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Originally Posted by OldSchool
Len, I was always under the impression that the bottom coil has an indentation in the lower arm that it must ride in. There is an inspection hole there to verify that it is seated properly in the bottom arm. Is this not true?
Steve
Steve
#11
Le Mans Master
I posted a thread with photos of the ride height with 460s and 550s - you should not have to cut anything off the 550s, the ride height will be at 27.25" ('79 SB, no A/c)
If you really want it lower then cut from the bottom end, it will make terrible noises when the cut is at the top.
Cut with a 4" angle grinder and cutting wheel, cut a little bit at a time and cool the spring with a wet rag while you cut. Cut slow, don't get too much heat in there...
1/2" coil cut off the bottom will drop the front signifficantly, roundabout 1".... every car reacts differently, don't cut too much the first time...
If you really want it lower then cut from the bottom end, it will make terrible noises when the cut is at the top.
Cut with a 4" angle grinder and cutting wheel, cut a little bit at a time and cool the spring with a wet rag while you cut. Cut slow, don't get too much heat in there...
1/2" coil cut off the bottom will drop the front signifficantly, roundabout 1".... every car reacts differently, don't cut too much the first time...
#12
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Originally Posted by Redshark6974
That is true, but if not seated correctly at the top, you could be riding high once again. With a cut spring, you take away the flat bind the coil takes at the bottom, but it doesn't matter where they fall at, as long as the top is seated.
Rod - You need a 427 ci because it would save you from having to change the rearend to 3.9 or 4.11
#13
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Originally Posted by gkull
Rod - You need a 427 ci because it would save you from having to change the rearend to 3.9 or 4.11
I'm going from 15" wheels with 255/60s to 17" wheels with 255/40s and the deference in tire size is 2 inches. I need to close the gap by cutting my springs. The 550# were fine with the 15 tire/wheel combination. I'm waiting for my new rear spring which is 1.5" shorter than the stock spring. Rod
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Rod - I did not look it up. But the tire rack has all the vendors tire dia. listings.
I just thought that if you installed 427ci SBC (I'm not selling mine) That you would have more low end grunt to go with your over geared 3.73's
I just thought that if you installed 427ci SBC (I'm not selling mine) That you would have more low end grunt to go with your over geared 3.73's
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Originally Posted by Redshark6974
That is true, but if not seated correctly at the top, you could be riding high once again. With a cut spring, you take away the flat bind the coil takes at the bottom, but it doesn't matter where they fall at, as long as the top is seated.
Oldschool
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Originally Posted by bryan27
It is my impresion that when you cut springs, the heat from the cutting takes the temper out of the metal, then before you know it, your spring goes flat. Be careful.
#18
Team Owner
You cut 1 1/4 turns out of your spring and you lost 2 inches? My front end wheel well is different than a stock 79, but my front tires are also 27 inches in dia is why the clearance problem.
Have you driven it much yet? Cutting the spring increases the inch pound rate and it should realy be fiirm now.
Have you driven it much yet? Cutting the spring increases the inch pound rate and it should realy be fiirm now.
#19
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George, I haven't driven it at all since cutting springs. I waiting for my new shortened rear spring prior to driving. I installed my rear wheels for a trail fit (18x10 with 5.5" backspacing) and the only contact I have is with the spring. I'm expecting a much stiffer ride considering the cut front springs and going from 15" wheels with 60 profile tires to 17x8" wheels with 255/40s on the front and 18x10 wheels with 285/35s on the rear.
Rod
Rod
Last edited by Red73; 04-11-2005 at 10:24 AM.
#20
Originally Posted by Jughead
Use a cut-off wheel or a hacksaw. Start small (1/2coil) and see how it turns out. Cut the bottom of the spring, you could grind down a little flat spot on the bottom coil too. Make sure the top of the spring is properly seated in its socket. Bottom doesn't matter. Don't tighten the lower CA bolts until you have weight on the springs.