I'm considering a steeroids converison and looking for opinions
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I'm considering a steeroids converison and looking for opinions
I have a 69 convertible with factory power steering and I'm considering converting the car to a Steeroids rack. I've heard comments that some don't like the feel of steering after the conversions. I've put a front end suspension kit on the car but still don't like the sloppy steering. I probably have a little play in my old steering box but I just don't think a new box is going to make that much difference.
I'm looking for opinions from others that have done the conversion. Are you happy with it? Any problems? Any regrets? What about other racks also? I understand Flaming River has a kit too. Anyone went with that kit?
Thanks for any comments in advance.
Steve
I'm looking for opinions from others that have done the conversion. Are you happy with it? Any problems? Any regrets? What about other racks also? I understand Flaming River has a kit too. Anyone went with that kit?
Thanks for any comments in advance.
Steve
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Went from manual to Steeriods so the feel was def much lighter but for me it was worth it. Some have said they believe the brackets are not sturdy enough so to be on the safe side I like to get the car rolling before turning the wheel (similar to what I had to do with the manual stock system) to reduce the stress on the brackets.
Being the cheap guy that I am I probably would have bought the Jeep box base system if they had been out but still have no regrets getting the Steeriods system, makes my vette much more enjoyable to drive than the old manual system.
Get a OD trans next are you will have a fairly modern tech car that is 25+ years old.
Being the cheap guy that I am I probably would have bought the Jeep box base system if they had been out but still have no regrets getting the Steeriods system, makes my vette much more enjoyable to drive than the old manual system.
Get a OD trans next are you will have a fairly modern tech car that is 25+ years old.
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I had a sloppy steering box and leaking power assist. I chose Steeroids instead of new replacement box, cylinder, control, hoses, etc. I am very glad I did. Yes, the feel is a little too light, but they sell a shim kit to help in that area.
As for the strength of the brackets, they are plenty strong for my driving. I don't recall anyone reportting the brackets actually failing. Speculation? If so, an isolated case?
I did read a few threads about the installation of another r&p steering kit. Wow! What a lot of work. Modifying the frame? No way. The Steeroids installation was quite straight forward. The bracket and gusset fit was surprisingly good. I had no problem aligning the u-joint chain to be straight. The most difficult part of the installation was connecting one of the hoses to the PS pump.
Overall, Steeroids was the third best upgrade I made to my '80. (First is GM 350 HO crate engine, second is full-length ceramic coated headers with true dual pipes and Flo-Pro mufflers.)
As for the strength of the brackets, they are plenty strong for my driving. I don't recall anyone reportting the brackets actually failing. Speculation? If so, an isolated case?
I did read a few threads about the installation of another r&p steering kit. Wow! What a lot of work. Modifying the frame? No way. The Steeroids installation was quite straight forward. The bracket and gusset fit was surprisingly good. I had no problem aligning the u-joint chain to be straight. The most difficult part of the installation was connecting one of the hoses to the PS pump.
Overall, Steeroids was the third best upgrade I made to my '80. (First is GM 350 HO crate engine, second is full-length ceramic coated headers with true dual pipes and Flo-Pro mufflers.)
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i like steeroids and the feel is light...but so much better then before...1/8" movement in the steering wheel produces wheel movement
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Hey guys, thanks for the info. Yeah I think I'm going to put the steeroids system on my car. Even if the feel is a little light that doesn't seem like too big a problem. And 1/8 movement in the steering wheel to get tire movements sure sounds sweet. It might steer something like my C5, wouldn't that be great.
Thanks again,
Steve
Thanks again,
Steve
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Install was pretty straight forward. I did have some issues with getting the u-joints aligned properly.
I like the feel, and don't miss the old system at all.
Wish it didn't cost so much, but replacing all the stock parts isn't much cheaper.
I like the feel, and don't miss the old system at all.
Wish it didn't cost so much, but replacing all the stock parts isn't much cheaper.
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I put one of the first Steeroid's systems on my 71 Coupe many years ago and it's been great. There's no way that the stock system can come close due to the control valve etc, and if you want road feel a rack is much better than a power box.
The brackets seem fine to me, and most modern cars flex their rack's rubber mounts a little if turning the wheel at rest.
Pros: Fantastic linear feel and fast ratio.
Cons: Slightly light feel (I guess there's a shim available to help with this, though I haven't tried it), and it hangs a little low if your Vette is lowered a bunch (fine at stock ride height).
Conclusion: The Steeroid's rack is one of the best things I've done to my C3, which include a 700R4 OD Trans, 400HP-406ci, and a modded HVAC system that delivers more fresh air at cruise.
That said, if your Vette is lowered a lot and in the weeds, then I'd choose the Jeep Box personally.
The brackets seem fine to me, and most modern cars flex their rack's rubber mounts a little if turning the wheel at rest.
Pros: Fantastic linear feel and fast ratio.
Cons: Slightly light feel (I guess there's a shim available to help with this, though I haven't tried it), and it hangs a little low if your Vette is lowered a bunch (fine at stock ride height).
Conclusion: The Steeroid's rack is one of the best things I've done to my C3, which include a 700R4 OD Trans, 400HP-406ci, and a modded HVAC system that delivers more fresh air at cruise.
That said, if your Vette is lowered a lot and in the weeds, then I'd choose the Jeep Box personally.
I had a sloppy steering box and leaking power assist. I chose Steeroids instead of new replacement box, cylinder, control, hoses, etc. I am very glad I did. Yes, the feel is a little too light, but they sell a shim kit to help in that area.
As for the strength of the brackets, they are plenty strong for my driving. I don't recall anyone reporting the brackets actually failing. Speculation? If so, an isolated case?
I did read a few threads about the installation of another r&p steering kit. Wow! What a lot of work. Modifying the frame? No way. The Steeroids installation was quite straight forward. The bracket and gusset fit was surprisingly good. I had no problem aligning the u-joint chain to be straight. The most difficult part of the installation was connecting one of the hoses to the PS pump.
Overall, Steeroids was the third best upgrade I made to my '80. (First is GM 350 HO crate engine, second is full-length ceramic coated headers with true dual pipes and Flo-Pro mufflers.)
As for the strength of the brackets, they are plenty strong for my driving. I don't recall anyone reporting the brackets actually failing. Speculation? If so, an isolated case?
I did read a few threads about the installation of another r&p steering kit. Wow! What a lot of work. Modifying the frame? No way. The Steeroids installation was quite straight forward. The bracket and gusset fit was surprisingly good. I had no problem aligning the u-joint chain to be straight. The most difficult part of the installation was connecting one of the hoses to the PS pump.
Overall, Steeroids was the third best upgrade I made to my '80. (First is GM 350 HO crate engine, second is full-length ceramic coated headers with true dual pipes and Flo-Pro mufflers.)
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I had a steeroids kit installed on my 69 convert inplace of a perfect working original PS system. I could not believe the difference. If you drive the car aggressive then you will want the steeriods as it makes things a lot easier to control plus it cleans up the engine bay greatly making tons of room.
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I feel it's easy enough to do your own rack install, and it's possible for about 200 bux or less.....using stock tie rod ends, an adaptor block in the center, longer sleeves, and a junkyard rack---Ifound a fresh one from a '92 Grand am.....much cleaner than the engine, so it was new to that car....rebuilt I"m sure....been fine for me....inputs linkages are just junkyard parts from forgotten cars.....
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My 71's at F41 trim height and it's fine, but for those of you who are running small diameter wheel/tire combos and have lowered your Vette over them, you have to remember that if you hit your headers etc you won't lose control of your car (in most cases), but if you hit your steering linkage and break something you will.
Just something for the extremely lowered car owners to consider...
Just something for the extremely lowered car owners to consider...
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Went from manual to Steeriods so the feel was def much lighter but for me it was worth it. Some have said they believe the brackets are not sturdy enough so to be on the safe side I like to get the car rolling before turning the wheel (similar to what I had to do with the manual stock system) to reduce the stress on the brackets.
Being the cheap guy that I am I probably would have bought the Jeep box base system if they had been out but still have no regrets getting the Steeriods system, makes my vette much more enjoyable to drive than the old manual system.
Get a OD trans next are you will have a fairly modern tech car that is 25+ years old.
Being the cheap guy that I am I probably would have bought the Jeep box base system if they had been out but still have no regrets getting the Steeriods system, makes my vette much more enjoyable to drive than the old manual system.
Get a OD trans next are you will have a fairly modern tech car that is 25+ years old.
If you have the early (stiffer) springs in the factory steering valve and your steering box is good condition and set properly the factory PS works fine. There is NO lost motion in a properly set steering box.
If you are really concerned about the feel, the PS steering valve could be rebuilt with even stiffer centering springs (or perhaps shimmed early springs) to provide manual steering effort and NO lost motion at speeds above 20 or 30 MPH and power assist with somewhat higher effort below those speeds.
I have thought about figuring this out and offering a conversion kit, but have never gotten around to it.
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steer-oids
I'm installing the Steeroids kit now...July '11....
also pulling the 454-TH400 and installing a 496 & TKO600...
....replacing all the front suspension rubber with urethane pieces....
....installing Vintage Air A/C, 4-core aluminm radiator, elect fans and fuel pump....
....should be a lot of fun....!
also pulling the 454-TH400 and installing a 496 & TKO600...
....replacing all the front suspension rubber with urethane pieces....
....installing Vintage Air A/C, 4-core aluminm radiator, elect fans and fuel pump....
....should be a lot of fun....!
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T56 Swap... GTO or F-body tranny
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