Fuel injection for Vortec/350 HO crate?
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Drifting
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Fuel injection for Vortec/350 HO crate?
Although I really like the GM Performance 350 HO in my '80, I would like better throttle response and better gas mileage without loosing HP or torque. Is that possible with fuel injection? Currently I have the GM intake and 600 cfm Hollie that came with the 350 HO Deluxe package, and the iron Vortec heads.
I don't want to spend more than I have to on FI because I am also saving for a Keisler 5-spd, so I've been watching eBay. There are a couple of FI systems from '96 and '97 Silverado trucks listed now.
First, will these systems work on my HO? Or should I watch for a system from an F-body or other passenger car?
Second, what else do I need? Computer? O2 sensor on my header? New distributor? Or will my vacuum HEI work?
Third, will it fit under my stock '80 hood?
Complete '96 Silverado FI System
Complete '97 Silverado FI System
I don't want to spend more than I have to on FI because I am also saving for a Keisler 5-spd, so I've been watching eBay. There are a couple of FI systems from '96 and '97 Silverado trucks listed now.
First, will these systems work on my HO? Or should I watch for a system from an F-body or other passenger car?
Second, what else do I need? Computer? O2 sensor on my header? New distributor? Or will my vacuum HEI work?
Third, will it fit under my stock '80 hood?
Complete '96 Silverado FI System
Complete '97 Silverado FI System
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Lately I have been doing a lot of work for a guy that uses the Tahoe and Suburban for his fleet of work trucks. I have done a lot of work to the stock Vortec engines in these trucks, and I think there are far better options out there. The performance is good, they pull strong, respond very well, and get good MPG even for bing in a big truck...but these systems are complicated.
The wiring harness for the engine is not stand alone...it's spread out all over the engine bay incorporating all sorts of things that you won't have or need. The fuel line inserts are very odd too and you'll need to find them if not get them from this seller, as they are unique to that manifold.
Also, the stock hat and intake system might not fit under your hood. It is also a very unique part, and a standard open element filter would not be possible. I would think a custom breather would be the only way.
There are lots of sensors to consider, that would need to be deleted from your harness.
I think just the harness and PCM work would make this project very difficult. Oh, and there was no car version of the Vortec fuel injection. The cars got LT1, and the trucks got Vortec.
LT1 is a hard FI system to add too...I almost think a TBI or TPI system would be easier for you to install.
The wiring harness for the engine is not stand alone...it's spread out all over the engine bay incorporating all sorts of things that you won't have or need. The fuel line inserts are very odd too and you'll need to find them if not get them from this seller, as they are unique to that manifold.
Also, the stock hat and intake system might not fit under your hood. It is also a very unique part, and a standard open element filter would not be possible. I would think a custom breather would be the only way.
There are lots of sensors to consider, that would need to be deleted from your harness.
I think just the harness and PCM work would make this project very difficult. Oh, and there was no car version of the Vortec fuel injection. The cars got LT1, and the trucks got Vortec.
LT1 is a hard FI system to add too...I almost think a TBI or TPI system would be easier for you to install.
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Go see the guys at TPISpecialties. There out just west of Minneapolis and have been doing fuel injection set-ups since the beginning. I've got their Miniram system on mine.
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Street and Performance or Howell make Vortec harnesses. You could go with a Vortec system but you would need sensors and a distributor at least in addition to the intake. I would go TPI and get the Vortec base from Scoggin-Dickey. TPI stuff is really dropping in cost the last few years.
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I have a GM Performance 350HO in one of my cars (not a Vette) and have Edelbrock Pro-Flo RPM EFI installed on it. It is a fabulous running engine with that EFI, though it's not the cheapest system on the market, it comes with the wiring harness, electric fuel pump and lines and most everything else needed.
The only issues on installation was it took the speed shop some time to dial in the calibration, but once done, it smokes the tires.
One hint...this system and many, if not most others, uses a Hall Effect distributor...it's not compatible with a capacitive discharge ignition like MSD, Mallory, Crane, etc. Don't ask how I know that!
The only issues on installation was it took the speed shop some time to dial in the calibration, but once done, it smokes the tires.
One hint...this system and many, if not most others, uses a Hall Effect distributor...it's not compatible with a capacitive discharge ignition like MSD, Mallory, Crane, etc. Don't ask how I know that!
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I found the TPIS web site but don't know if they have a Vortec full kit.
And thank you, DB, for your insight about Chevy truck engines. I'm all for a system that is "easy" to install and not complicate.
I agree, Roughrider, the Edelbrock system is a bit pricey regardless of how complete it is.
Thanks for all the other tips and suggestions too.
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I have a TPI system and a set of heads. Runs good for what I know of the tuning. That said if I had to do it again I would buy the Vortec heads, TPI base. Best of both! Vortec TPI
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TPiS "Sheet Metal Intake"
I didn't find any info about the TPiS Miniram FI system yet, but I did find their "sheet metal intake" for engine bays with limited hood clearance. Those runners look pretty short though. Doesn't that affect low-end torque? Or is that just a rumor?
I think I would finish it with clear powdercoat though.
I think I would finish it with clear powdercoat though.
Last edited by MN80Vette; 03-25-2008 at 07:38 AM.