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Old 05-05-2009, 05:37 PM
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Default 383 vs 406

I have a lead on a 350 4 bolt and a 406 2 bolt. I want the hp to be around 425 hp as a starting point for both engines. I know the 406 will probably have more torque than the 383, how much, I don't know. Which engine would you build for street driving?
Old 05-05-2009, 05:57 PM
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406 is 6% bigger " than 383. If you start from scratch ... It'll probably cost you a whole lot more than 6% more to build 406 than 383. But in a broad, general sense ... 406 has only 6% more potential than 383.

A good GM 400 block usually brings a lot more $ than a good GM 350 block.

there're many more 350 head gasket thickness/choices than 400 choices.
there're gazillions of 383 pistons; not near so many 406 choices. Typically, the more choices available, the lesser the avg cost is.

400/406 Heads ... steam holes or no steam holes $$$$ ????
350/383 ... N/A.
Old 05-05-2009, 07:26 PM
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Hands down, 406 is/was my choice.
Old 05-05-2009, 07:27 PM
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If you have to buy a new crank you might as well stroke the 400 block out to 415 or 421 is safe. 425 HP for a 383 is quite easy to do though.
Old 05-05-2009, 08:32 PM
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Originally Posted by Gordonm
If you have to buy a new crank you might as well stroke the 400 block out to 415 or 421 is safe. 425 HP for a 383 is quite easy to do though.
A 406 is easier to build than a 383 because you don't have to clearance the block for a 3.75" crank, no brainer for me for the other obvious reasons like more power potential
Old 05-05-2009, 09:08 PM
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406. Not worth doing a 383 in my opinion. I just built one and it was a pain...
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Clearancing the block took me a total of 3 hours. I'd do it again in a heartbeat for the extra power it brings. Regardless of a 350 block or 400 block. The small amount of time it takes is well worth the extra torque an HP. I was not in a rush anyway and wanted it correctly done. If anyone building a motor thinks clearancing a block is to much or to hard they should not be building the motor. It really is not hard to do at all.
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Originally Posted by Gordonm
Clearancing the block took me a total of 3 hours. I'd do it again in a heartbeat for the extra power it brings. Regardless of a 350 block or 400 block. The small amount of time it takes is well worth the extra torque an HP. I was not in a rush anyway and wanted it correctly done. If anyone building a motor thinks clearancing a block is to much or to hard they should not be building the motor. It really is not hard to do at all.
Takes me about 5 minutes !!!
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So would a machine shop charge the same for doing the same machine work to a 400ci block as a 350ci block with the added clearancing ?
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So would a machine shop charge the same for doing the same machine work to a 400ci block as a 350ci block with the added clearancing ?
Well if a 400 block comes in and we line hone it we have to line bore the rear main seal area before we line hone and you don;t have to do that with a 350 block.

Most shops would charge to clearance the bottom of the cylinders as we haven't yet as we clearance all the blocks we do incase they ever change there mind later on.
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The 406 is always the better choice.

Of course I stroked MY 406 to 434... Love it!
Old 05-06-2009, 12:31 AM
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Easy answer.

Would you rather have a 396 or 427?
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I agree a 406.
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I've build over a dozen 406's (but for a corvette) and I would go with the 406. But you not only have to be concerned with the steam holes but the distance between cylinders is quite a bit less than with the 350/383 block. In racing we have burned the head gasket between cylinder 5 and 7 when using GM blocks. Currently we have a Dart block with Dart heads and have not hand any issues. I'm just a little leary of the GM blocks it very hard to find a good on these days.

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