mikep3

GOFAST,
http://www.nysdmv.com/broch/c-50.htm
I checked this site for NY State inspection and your are right, 26 years old and no emissions inspection.
Serial muffler shops, Cole (Mavis) and Midas said they follow the Federal Law that says, all parts supplied on the vehicle at the time of delivery are required to be present and can not be modified or removed. That would be things like a cat, smog pump, evaporator canister or EGR valve. This meant that they would not inspect or service the muffler system.
The shop that has been doing my state inspection follows the State Rules for inspection, but said they would not do any exhaust or engine work on the car because it has a dual exhaust.

Paul L

That's the point. Emissions are not tested but a visual inspection of emissions devices is. If they are are not there then you have a very expensive problem....

vettebuyer6369

Do what I did... install a perfectly nice cosmetic unit which has been completely disabled.

GOSFAST

We do a high number of 100% stock appearing resto units for a local shop, have been for some years now and the photo above here's sums it up really well.

Not for the inspections here, as I stated above, but to get the car through the judged shows!

Thanks, Gary in N.Y.

P.S. Here's a shot of one a few years back, there's not a functioning "smog" piece anywhere on the unit! This is also a "full roller" build, hyd-roller lifters and roller rockers!

CCrane65

Steve, that engine is a thing of beauty right along with the rest of the car!

cc

vettebuyer6369

Thanks, cc!

Jeff_Keryk

A little off topic, but since you guys like sunny CA so much, here's the latest (thanks to our wonderful Arnie)... As of 1/1/2009, universal replacement cats are no longer allowed. Shops have to install a cat specific to each vehicle. Apparantly its the same thing, but it has a some kinda tag. So, instead of a $70 replacement, we get to pay $250!

MotorHead

If I have to I will be doing something similar along with cats that have nothing in them.

Retro78

Hi. Motorhead. Are you doing this because you are still working on resolving the issue from last year when you got stopped? or just out of concern of being stopped again in the future?

I have cats on mine and a canister, but no air pump or EGR crap.

enkeivette

You should have told them to go fu*k themselves untill they got a warrant to search your property. Then while they were busy getting the warrant you should have asked the cop if you were free to leave or if he wanted to be sued personally for false imprisonment.

baxsom

In the military we call this barracks lawyer advice. Id run this advice through an attorney before Id tell a cop to F himself. Especially since in many states just telling anyone in general cop of not to F themself is considered simple assault.

enkeivette

No it's not, assualt is when the defendant intends to (or acts with knowledge to a substantial certainty) to cause fear or apprehension of unauthorized or injurious contact with the plaintiff.

Basically, the cop would have to fear that you were going to hit him. Although an intent to make actual contact is not required.

Battery is when you do make an unauthorized or injurious contact with the plaintiff.

And you can tell anyone to go fu*k themselves, it's a first amendment privilege. There is no tort for cursing at someone or stating your opinion. Remember that guy who yelled fu*k you to Dick Cheney? But I wasn't actually advocating cursing at a cop. I meant that you should assert your right not to have your property searched without a warrant, with a nice smile and an implied middle finger.

I'm a 2nd year law student btw, and I've already passed torts & crim law (type of crimes you're incorrectly defining).

MrJlr

Hmmm....back on topic, when I purchased my '74 about 7 or 8 years ago, and it changed ownership to me, I did NOT have to do any smog at all. And I'm in California. No smog when I bought it, no smogging since... And I'd be willing to bet most of us guys who love their C3's as much as we do - our cars burn cleanner then a LOT of newer cars that are being smogged. If MY C3 was pumping smoke - you can bet I'd pull the engine and rebuild it....

My car is 36 years old now....I see 10 year old cars that I'm sure pollute more than mine...


EDIT: P.S. IMHO I would never tell a cop to "F" himself....just a bad idea..LOL !!! When you go to the zoo - don't poke the bear.

Jughead

The only thing I have on my '70 is a PCV valve. Not really sure what it's "supposed" to have.


It's also emission exempt cuz I have it titled as an antique.

I also have a 91 Mustang GT and it is usually emission exempt because I drive it <5,000 miles a year with the speedometer unplugged.

Garys 68

Here in MO you can get Historic Plates that exempt you from ANY kind of inspection. No such thing in other states?????
Also, I installed an 02 FI LS2 engine in my 68 (no cats though). I would be willing to bet it's cleaner than any 68 original smog car. How would one handle that in NJ or CA?

Mike Ward

I never went to law school, but learned very early in life that arguing with a street cop rarely worked to my benefit.

BTW- the OP is in Canada, so debating which section of the US constitution defends his rights is kinda irrelevant.

MrJlr

Good point !!! What IS the deal on getting "Historic" plates ???

toddalin

According to CA law, it is perfectly legal to put any later engine for a similar-type vehicle into an earlier year, just so long as you take all of the emissions equipment that went with that year/group that the new engine is from. All emissions equipment can also include such things as the later available rear end ratios, automatic OD-trannie only, sealed gas cap, etc.

Car then goes to a referee for varification/certification.

63mako

My 72 L48 had PCV, Charcoal can and a TCS solinoid that was not used on 4 speed cars. That is it. The LT1's had air pump and all associated plumbing. Get a 68 to 72 base engine 4 speed car with no engine or trans and your set. It will be worth more than the 80 when your done.

vette427-sbc

We have historic plates too in NJ. They call it a "self inspection"- basically just make sure your car is safe to drive on the road. No emissions, but there are mileage limits (not very enforced). I once drove around a 55 chevy that had historic plates with no front clip when we were getting bodyshop estimates. No problems with the cops, just weird looks