Shift Linkage Adjustment on Muncie M21
#1
Melting Slicks
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Shift Linkage Adjustment on Muncie M21
Is there a DIY instruction page on how to adjust the linkage on my 68 Muncie M21?
I'm having troubles getting it into 1st without hitting the center console. There is a good 1/2 inch at the bottom when in 2nd but 1st is so tight it is touching the console.
It also seems to get stuck in reverse once in a while (rarely) but when it does it is a REAL pain to get it out of reverse. It's like it is stuck in 1st and reverse at the same time. Car won't move forward but really stuck bad in reverse.
Looking for an instruction page with diagrams and pictures and a picture or measurements of the tool needed.
shmoky
I'm having troubles getting it into 1st without hitting the center console. There is a good 1/2 inch at the bottom when in 2nd but 1st is so tight it is touching the console.
It also seems to get stuck in reverse once in a while (rarely) but when it does it is a REAL pain to get it out of reverse. It's like it is stuck in 1st and reverse at the same time. Car won't move forward but really stuck bad in reverse.
Looking for an instruction page with diagrams and pictures and a picture or measurements of the tool needed.
shmoky
#2
Racer
Most Corvettes I've seen have a second set of holes in the shifter arms on the transmission. This will shorten the shifter throws considerably. If yours don't have these holes, a machine shop can drill them. I've never seen a reverse arm with a second hole. I had mine drilled.
#4
Safety Car
This tip may not apply, but once my shifter linkage plate was mounted, we had to insert a golf tee thru the "drill bit hole" to adjust the linkage. We then adjusted the rods The golf tee could then be broken and taken out. We found this a much easier way rather then unbolting/bolting the shifter housing plates.
#5
Race Director
This tip may not apply, but once my shifter linkage plate was mounted, we had to insert a golf tee thru the "drill bit hole" to adjust the linkage. We then adjusted the rods The golf tee could then be broken and taken out. We found this a much easier way rather then unbolting/bolting the shifter housing plates.
#6
Do you have a hurst shifter? If so, you definitely need to line up the 3 "lever arms", put a drillbit (that's what I used) through the hole (which is towards the front bottom of the shifter plate on the drivers side) to lock them in place. Now you can go about adjusting rod length.
I also suggest taking your shifter off the transmission (disconnect rods first), take it apart and clean it thoroughly. Mine was so nasty it pretty much didn't work after sitting for 9 months. Also, get new lever pins and bushings, b/c I'm sure yours are worn out.
I also suggest taking your shifter off the transmission (disconnect rods first), take it apart and clean it thoroughly. Mine was so nasty it pretty much didn't work after sitting for 9 months. Also, get new lever pins and bushings, b/c I'm sure yours are worn out.
#7
Melting Slicks
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Thanx for the replies. To be more specific I do NOT have a Hurst shifter. (sounds like if I did it would be easy to adjust)
I've seen that diagram before Roger but couldn't remember/find it again. You say to "slide tool in shifter". Can you explain as to where to slide it into please.
shmoky
I've seen that diagram before Roger but couldn't remember/find it again. You say to "slide tool in shifter". Can you explain as to where to slide it into please.
shmoky
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Race Director
There will be a flat slot on the drivers side of the shifter, and the same slots through all 3 shift levers inside the shifter. Once you slide the tool through the shift levers are locked in the neutral position. To be honest I have not tried to use the tool in the drawing , my tool is exactly the same but without the handle. I've heard others say the tool with the handle goes in fine.
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You'll find a detailed PDF file on how to adjust the linkage here: http://willcoxcorvette.com/repairand...lp.php?hID=177
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Thanks Willcox! That is the diagram I have in my head. I think it is the same or similar diagram with instructions in the 1968 GM Service Manual. I had a heck of a time finding the hole (slot) for that tool from underneath. I think I actually inserted it from above - using the small piece like Roger is showing, of course after removing console and all boots.
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No problem..
Boy, I need to do that one over again and make it a better read. Actually this is in most assembly and service manuals. In the AIM's it is one of "those" pages that seem to bad on every volume.
Rogers got the perfect tool, but even then it can be a pain to get in place.
I really do need to make a cleaner picture. Were doing a body off on a 65 so that would be a great chance to snap a good picture to label up.. Were about 2 months from that point right now.
Willcox
Boy, I need to do that one over again and make it a better read. Actually this is in most assembly and service manuals. In the AIM's it is one of "those" pages that seem to bad on every volume.
Rogers got the perfect tool, but even then it can be a pain to get in place.
I really do need to make a cleaner picture. Were doing a body off on a 65 so that would be a great chance to snap a good picture to label up.. Were about 2 months from that point right now.
Willcox
#14
Melting Slicks
I made a tool similar to what is shown in the service manual.
Worked great while the body was off.
I haven't been able to find a way to get this tool in place with the body on.
Seems I'd need to drop the shifter out, insert the tool, remount and adjust.
The drop it out again to remove? Doesn't seem to be enough room to reach
the slot with the body on.
Worked great while the body was off.
I haven't been able to find a way to get this tool in place with the body on.
Seems I'd need to drop the shifter out, insert the tool, remount and adjust.
The drop it out again to remove? Doesn't seem to be enough room to reach
the slot with the body on.
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I bought a new shifter for my 73 when I thought it was bad. It came with a rectangualar piece of sheet metal to put in the slot. I was able to do it with the body on. If I can find that piece tomorrow I will try to take a pictue of it but it was just a rectangle and nothing special about it. I never did install the new shifter. I just adjusted my current one and it still works fine. I am keeping the new one as a spare though.
#16
Drifting
Irritatingly my Hearst shifter is more frequently getting 'linkage bound' - gets jammed in second - I have to get underneath and bang the linkage over with a wrench - a real pita!
#17
Drifting
Checked this out yesterday - 1st & 2nd shifter arm was loose on selector shaft - tightened it up and what a difference - I really hadn't noticed the deteriation in shifting quality - now I have back those nice, precise machine quality shifts
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Drifting
Mine is an early Muncie box with threaded selector shafts, the shift rod arms secured by nuts - whereas the later boxes use tapped shafts and bolts to secure shift rod arms. In my case the 'flats' on the first/second selector shaft are worn allowing the arm to rotate a little - enough to allow first and second gear selection to be imprecise - my short term fix was to cut/file/shape a 'shim' to take up the clearance.
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Race Director
Mine is an early Muncie box with threaded selector shafts, the shift rod arms secured by nuts - whereas the later boxes use tapped shafts and bolts to secure shift rod arms. In my case the 'flats' on the first/second selector shaft are worn allowing the arm to rotate a little - enough to allow first and second gear selection to be imprecise - my short term fix was to cut/file/shape a 'shim' to take up the clearance.