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Old 08-24-2012, 08:23 PM
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Just dropped my 350 block at the machine shop today. It's going to a 383 crank and the machinist recommends a 6 quart oil pan over the stock 5. The plan also calls for Flowtech headers and the question is what's a good 6 quart oil pan that won't sit lower than the stock (1980) pan?
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I have an '80 and Milodon or Moroso make nice pans for them
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I have an '80 and Milodon or Moroso make nice pans for them
Thanks for the reply. Looking at oil pans on Summit's web site, some pans are listed as requiring a thick front gasket. I was hoping to go felpro with the one piece to avoid leaks.

Also, will Eagle rods present any special clearance issues with the 383 crank?
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Most likely your block will have to be clearanced for the rods to turn freely.
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Most likely your block will have to be clearanced for the rods to turn freely.
This is true, but the oil pan also has to have clearance for the 383 crank and eagle rods. That's why I posted hoping to find a 6 quart pan that cleared the rods, headers in my 1980.

http://www.summitracing.com/parts/MOR-20180/
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On my 79, which has a 383 stroker, I used a hamburger performance 7qt pan. But I'm not a happy customer (pickup crooked, had to be cut and rewelded, panrail not straight and uses less bolts than factory), so I'd advise you to not buy one of those. But it clearanced fine
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Moroso makes a "stroker" pan, look on their site. If you haven't got the Eagle rods I would go with something else,my last build I sent everything from Eagle back, that reminds me where exactly is the Eagle manufacturing plant ? Try and get stroker rods from a good company they have one shoulder milled down

Here is an Eagle stroker rod, notice the shoulder has been milled down which would have been fine except for the fact the rods where garbage and egg shaped and had to be re-sized. When they were re-sized the rod bolts were tightened more resulting in the milled off bolt sticking out and you can't just grind it down ( it was tried ) a new bolt had to be used, basically they ended up in the trash for $700 or whatever I paid 5 years ago

Bottom line by good parts from Callies, Manley etc. not this garbage


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Originally Posted by BlackC3vette
Thanks for the reply. Looking at oil pans on Summit's web site, some pans are listed as requiring a thick front gasket. I was hoping to go felpro with the one piece to avoid leaks.

Also, will Eagle rods present any special clearance issues with the 383 crank?
You can get the one piece gasket with the thick front, pretty sure that's what I have been using
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Originally Posted by MotorHead
You can get the one piece gasket with the thick front, pretty sure that's what I have been using
Would that be a one piece from felpro that comes in a thicker front?

Eagle Rods are the machinists choice along with the Eagle crank. Since this is a 350 to 383, I am letting him do the crank, rods and pistons to make sure everything clears and is balanced. If the rods don't clear, it's on him. I'll ask about Manley on Monday.

I just picked up an MSD HEI distributor (not the billet) and the box had "Made in China"

I did check out the Moroso web site for a stroker pan, which part number? 20180 or the 20183?
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Originally Posted by worship79
On my 79, which has a 383 stroker, I used a hamburger performance 7qt pan. But I'm not a happy customer (pickup crooked, had to be cut and rewelded, panrail not straight and uses less bolts than factory), so I'd advise you to not buy one of those. But it clearanced fine
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I am using a reasonably priced 6 qt. pan that I got from a racing? parts distributor. It is listed as 'a stock appearing' pan for claiming racers. It has internal baffles and trap doors. I had to bend the side baffles to clear my stroker crank. Otherwise, it seems to fit and work well. It comes in 'the white' so it needed a couple of coats of Chevy Orange on the outside, to match the engine.
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Originally Posted by glen242
I am using a reasonably priced 6 qt. pan that I got from a racing? parts distributor. It is listed as 'a stock appearing' pan for claiming racers. It has internal baffles and trap doors. I had to bend the side baffles to clear my stroker crank. Otherwise, it seems to fit and work well. It comes in 'the white' so it needed a couple of coats of Chevy Orange on the outside, to match the engine.
Any chance you remember that vendors name? The name brands are running $150+, so a reasonable price would be nice. Or, is the 150 price tag reasonable for an oil pan?

http://www.summitracing.com/parts/MOR-20180/
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Originally Posted by BlackC3vette
Any chance you remember that vendors name? The name brands are running $150+, so a reasonable price would be nice. Or, is the 150 price tag reasonable for an oil pan?

http://www.summitracing.com/parts/MOR-20180/
I will try and go through my beer case full of receipts tomorrow. My pan was a lot less than $100.
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Originally Posted by glen242
I will try and go through my beer case full of receipts tomorrow. My pan was a lot less than $100.
Sorry, I could not find the receipt nor could I find the appropriate catalog.
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I run a 383.... i have a canton... 6qt, (it states stock volume, but mine holds 6qt, so must be stock volum for something other than corvette)has trap door baffle, Crank scraper, Slosh baffle...less than $200 made in USA
https://www.cantonracingproducts.com...TE-ENGINE-PAN/
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I'm using a Steffs' pan. Not so sure I'd recommend it but it does clear the 383 issues. Have your engine builder look into scat. I had no issues with the specs on their gear.

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Originally Posted by glen242
Sorry, I could not find the receipt nor could I find the appropriate catalog.
Thanks for looking

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