Can I use hydraulic roller lifters on my solid lifter cam?
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Can I use hydraulic roller lifters on my solid lifter cam?
I love my solid lifter cam. The engine runs perfect but I want to eliminate the worry of a solid lifter failure. I am wondering if I could swap out the solid rollers with a set of hydraulic rollers. I understand the cam profile of a solid cam is different than a hydraulic but my cam is custom ground and installed by the previous owner so I don't know what I have...thanks.
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Some guys do it but know it wont run the same no more revving it to the moon.
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I'd flat tapped cams are ground on a taper. The lobes are ground this way and the rollers will not work on the face so a flat tapped cam. The profiles are totally different also. You will most likely ruin the cam and lifters very quickly.
I'd flat tapped cams are ground on a taper. The lobes are ground this way and the rollers will not work on the face so a flat tapped cam. The profiles are totally different also. You will most likely ruin the cam and lifters very quickly.
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I love my solid lifter cam. The engine runs perfect but I want to eliminate the worry of a solid lifter failure. I am wondering if I could swap out the solid rollers with a set of hydraulic rollers. I understand the cam profile of a solid cam is different than a hydraulic but my cam is custom ground and installed by the previous owner so I don't know what I have...thanks.
I ran solid r's on a h-roller cam after talking to somebody at Comp Cams that knew something.
I would say yes if it is a common street type solid roller. You would almost have to look at the lobes to verify that the lobe lift rate was not super agressive. You can also run a dial indicator on the pushrod side of your rocker and compare the .050, .100 and .200 duration numbers to lobes in the comp cams lobe profile book and see exactly what it is.
The second thing is you will need to change your springs to something around 145# closed. Which are used in the most aggressive H-roller lobe designs
These are my two billet cams. The one on the left if you look at the lobe is a street type solid roller. The cam on the right is a billet with racing lobes where you keep the valve open for a long time. It would destroy a H-roller lifter. See how big the end of the lobe is?
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He said two different things. He started off with "solid lifter" which most guys will interpret as "solid flat tappet lifter". Then he says "solid roller lifter". I'm not 100% convinced the OP knows the difference.
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Flat solids can last a life time. Things with wheels break down
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Running Crower Cool-face solid lifters with the EDM oiling port.This feature increases lubrication to the cam lobes.No lash changes since install,4k miles on the cam and lifters.Don't think I would replace just the lifters on a cam that has been run.Recommend new cam with new lifters.This being my first solid lifter cam,I noticed right away the engine seems to rev quicker & sounds great....Pic of the lifters....
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Using this oil, formulated for flat tappet engines:
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Using this oil, formulated for flat tappet engines:
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Thank you for that. This is an 8 year old thread, so we had forgotten completely about it....
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If you were to try to use a roller lifter of either type on a flat tappet cam of either type it would kill the power of the engine anyway regardless of the fact bad things would happen.
A flat tappet cam contacts the lobe closer to the edge of the lifter bore than a roller.
That's why a flat tappet cam with identical specs will make more power regardless of how steep the ramp is.
A flat tappet cam contacts the lobe closer to the edge of the lifter bore than a roller.
That's why a flat tappet cam with identical specs will make more power regardless of how steep the ramp is.
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