Not that I plan to do this but....How do you do a burn-out?
02-07-2013, 09:29 AM
#22
Drifting
Well, to each his own my friend. As a kid, I had a GTX 440 6 PAK 435hp that ran SS-E. My friends all had muscle cars as well, and we all raced at the local drag strip, nearly every Sunday. That's where we tore up street tires, or slicks. No one burned up rubber in the street. We were all well aware that it was potentially dangerous, and a waste of money. But, like I said, to each his own.
Frances
Frances
Sounds like you guys were WAY more hard core than we ever were.
Going to the track was done once in a great while just to see "what it would do" after and engine rebuild or axle swap but was pretty boring otherwise- Not to mention the hour drive each way and using a tank of gas in the process made it a pretty expensive night out back then.
This was more of a social event. We'd usually all pile into one of our cars (were rarely raced each other, again kinda boring) and find sections of pavement in the area that allowed us to have a little smokey fun!
I'd like to think that it also helped build some driving skills that you don't normally learn otherwise. We learned to drift before drifting ever became a 'sport'. We also learned to ALWAYS wear our seat belts or end up sliding off the bench seat!
Was it irresponsible and perhaps dangerous at times? Absolutely!
But that's all part of growing up..
I gag when I see kids wearing helmets these days just to ride their bikes down the block!
With risk comes respect- Something most kids don't learn today..
Here's to the good ol' days!
02-07-2013, 10:04 AM
#25
Le Mans Master
As a kid I had a 81 TRANS AM with the lam 4.9 "301" motor. I placed BF Goodrich tires on back. But what made it worst was they were 50's. So damn wide and to much traction. So I took my windshield washer hose that went to my wipers, spliced and routed them to the top of the rear wheel fenders. Then filled the wiper bottle with bleach n water. I would spray the tires so they would be soft, then I was able to smoke'em. Fun in High school. But tires get expensive. LOL.
Oh the follies of youth!
02-07-2013, 10:53 AM
#26
Race Director
Wow! Some of you guys never lived, really!
Manual- Put the vehicle in 1st, Lift off clutch just enough to take all the play out of the drivetrain. Push R foot to floor as you lift left foot off floor.
Automatic- Put car in Drive. From a dead stop stomp accelerator to floor.
My Bone Stock 1972 L48 400 turbo W/ 3.08 gears would roast the tires using the automatic method above.
If your car will not roast the tires using these methods it is time to do some work to it, tuning, timing curve, ignition components, carb tuning or new performance parts.. Reving to 4000 RPM and dumping the clutch or dropping it into gear, Neutral drops or "backoffs" (reverse drops) will tear drivetrain components out and can cause severe damage.
Wheel hop is another problem and will require some trial and error rear suspension work to eliminate.
Manual- Put the vehicle in 1st, Lift off clutch just enough to take all the play out of the drivetrain. Push R foot to floor as you lift left foot off floor.
Automatic- Put car in Drive. From a dead stop stomp accelerator to floor.
My Bone Stock 1972 L48 400 turbo W/ 3.08 gears would roast the tires using the automatic method above.
If your car will not roast the tires using these methods it is time to do some work to it, tuning, timing curve, ignition components, carb tuning or new performance parts.. Reving to 4000 RPM and dumping the clutch or dropping it into gear, Neutral drops or "backoffs" (reverse drops) will tear drivetrain components out and can cause severe damage.
Wheel hop is another problem and will require some trial and error rear suspension work to eliminate.
02-07-2013, 11:23 AM
#27
Le Mans Master
I'm not planning to do a burn-out, but how, logistically, do you do it?
Looks like you got 300hp on that 75 so it should be able to power brake. Keep in mind while doing that the rear discs are getting red to white hot depending on how long you do it and that heat has to dissipate somewhere. Some of it will be transferred to the brake fluid itself and dot 3 boils pretty easily. Much of the heat will transfer to your axle and heat up the grease, maybe to a liquid. Also I have seen the discs actually begin to melt and drop off slags of molten metal and the gasses ignite, so I would limit it to 10 seconds or less.
Best alternative is to get a line lock and install it. this allows the front tires to be locked and the rears to spin freely.
I don't have access to a dyno or a track. so to have some way to measure the changes that I make to my engine I installed a line lock to get the tires sticky and then do a 0 to 60 timing. Kind of works but timing errors in pushing the stop/start button on the stop watch leads to only a range of times and an overall average.
Also is a good way to use up old tires that need changing due to age.
Last edited by REELAV8R; 02-07-2013 at 11:32 AM.
02-07-2013, 12:00 PM
#28
Drifting
Surprisingly enough, we never dropped a trans or a driveshaft with this technique.
02-07-2013, 01:08 PM
#29
Great post, this brought back many memories. I ran a 69 Camaro 4 speed in High School, we would cruise looking for a drag races on the street; many things have changed as I got older and I don't recommend that action anymore 
Anyways, we used the 'burn-out' as an intimidation factor... When I was up against those hot 340's or the odd warmed up Cleveland I would have my buddy run to the back of the trunk, grab the white bottle of water but in reality was bleach, rev 'er up, dump the clutch, hold the brake and stand on it. When the smoke reached the front doors, I would slam second gear and 'John Force' it for another 20 feet.
For full effect I would have my buddy guide me back up on my burn out tracks. Man, I must have thought I was '240 Gordie Bonin' going for gold.
I don't know if it intimidated anyone now that I think about it, maybe I was hoping that they would think there must have been a lot of power to make all of that smoke... The days of valour shirts, leather jackets, John Travolta hair and 'burnouts' always kept me young.
Anyways, we used the 'burn-out' as an intimidation factor... When I was up against those hot 340's or the odd warmed up Cleveland I would have my buddy run to the back of the trunk, grab the white bottle of water but in reality was bleach, rev 'er up, dump the clutch, hold the brake and stand on it. When the smoke reached the front doors, I would slam second gear and 'John Force' it for another 20 feet.
For full effect I would have my buddy guide me back up on my burn out tracks. Man, I must have thought I was '240 Gordie Bonin' going for gold.
I don't know if it intimidated anyone now that I think about it, maybe I was hoping that they would think there must have been a lot of power to make all of that smoke... The days of valour shirts, leather jackets, John Travolta hair and 'burnouts' always kept me young.
02-07-2013, 01:27 PM
#30
Burning Brakes
I rev the engine to 6K and dump the clutch
On the street and the track, hell passers by ask me to do it on the street all the time, they love it
Drive it like you stole it.
On the street and the track, hell passers by ask me to do it on the street all the time, they love it
Drive it like you stole it.
Last edited by aaroncorvette; 02-07-2013 at 01:40 PM.
02-07-2013, 03:50 PM
#31
Race Director
It won't take many of these to destroy something, especially if you don't take the slack out of the driveline first. Trans, Driveshaft, U-Joints , Differential, Half Shaft or Stub Axle the weakest one will break but all will be damaged by repeatedly doing this. If you have never had a halfshaft or driveshaft come loose from twisting or shearing off the u joint and bounced it off the bottom of your fiberglass car @ 6000 RPM you don't have any concept of the damage they will inflict. You can roast the tires and put on a smoke show without destroying your drivetrain or totaling your car. Drivetrain shock breaks the tires loose easier but also breaks components.
02-07-2013, 04:23 PM
#32
Burning Brakes
It won't take many of these to destroy something, especially if you don't take the slack out of the driveline first. Trans, Driveshaft, U-Joints , Differential, Half Shaft or Stub Axle the weakest one will break but all will be damaged by repeatedly doing this. If you have never had a halfshaft or driveshaft come loose from twisting or shearing off the u joint and bounced it off the bottom of your fiberglass car @ 6000 RPM you don't have any concept of the damage they will inflict. You can roast the tires and put on a smoke show without destroying your drivetrain or totaling your car. Drivetrain shock breaks the tires loose easier but also breaks components.
If I try it at say 4000rpms it will want to grip, my engine is very revy and lacking in bottom end torque, It reminds me more of my 2.1 pinto Mk1 Escort than a typical slow reving V8, and it gets driven in a similar manner.(sideways a lot
I've got a new TKO600RR, new clutch, new Keisler prop, a good rear end all in specs with new oil, cap screw UJ bolts etc
I've done this probably 100 times and if something breaks then so be it, hopefully it won't come though the car
I'm hearing you though
....but it suits my engine which isn't the case for most people with big blocks and engines that haven't been lightened and balanced, and have heavy flywheels
02-07-2013, 06:26 PM
#33
Burning Brakes
I can chirp mine off the line and when I upshift. If I really want lots of smoke and noise I turn the wheel halfway and punch it. It will do doughnuts all day.
True dials, x pipe and long tube headers helped a lot.
True dials, x pipe and long tube headers helped a lot.
02-07-2013, 06:43 PM
#34
Le Mans Master
Absolutely- To each his own!
Sounds like you guys were WAY more hard core than we ever were.
Going to the track was done once in a great while just to see "what it would do" after and engine rebuild or axle swap but was pretty boring otherwise- Not to mention the hour drive each way and using a tank of gas in the process made it a pretty expensive night out back then.
This was more of a social event. We'd usually all pile into one of our cars (were rarely raced each other, again kinda boring) and find sections of pavement in the area that allowed us to have a little smokey fun!
I'd like to think that it also helped build some driving skills that you don't normally learn otherwise. We learned to drift before drifting ever became a 'sport'. We also learned to ALWAYS wear our seat belts or end up sliding off the bench seat!
Was it irresponsible and perhaps dangerous at times? Absolutely!
But that's all part of growing up..
I gag when I see kids wearing helmets these days just to ride their bikes down the block!
With risk comes respect- Something most kids don't learn today..
Here's to the good ol' days!
Sounds like you guys were WAY more hard core than we ever were.
Going to the track was done once in a great while just to see "what it would do" after and engine rebuild or axle swap but was pretty boring otherwise- Not to mention the hour drive each way and using a tank of gas in the process made it a pretty expensive night out back then.
This was more of a social event. We'd usually all pile into one of our cars (were rarely raced each other, again kinda boring) and find sections of pavement in the area that allowed us to have a little smokey fun!
I'd like to think that it also helped build some driving skills that you don't normally learn otherwise. We learned to drift before drifting ever became a 'sport'. We also learned to ALWAYS wear our seat belts or end up sliding off the bench seat!
Was it irresponsible and perhaps dangerous at times? Absolutely!
But that's all part of growing up..
I gag when I see kids wearing helmets these days just to ride their bikes down the block!
With risk comes respect- Something most kids don't learn today..
Here's to the good ol' days!
There were weeks where my car cost me more than my salary, and I was in debt to my parents for 2 months, after buying parts.
But, through it all, I have some great memories, as do you I'm certain.
I am often frustrated these days, because I can no longer do any of my own repairs or maintenance on my cars.
The technology has passed me by, and too many special skills, and tools are required these days.
Last edited by Hameister; 02-07-2013 at 06:47 PM.
02-07-2013, 07:15 PM
#35
Le Mans Master
We used to get in a beater car of some sort, go in reverse about 30 mph, go to neutral then punch it as you shift into drive rolling backwards and spinning forward, smoke just rolling. We called it "makin J's" because of the marks it left.
02-07-2013, 09:47 PM
#36
Burning Brakes
This is how we do it "down under",
In AUSTRALIA
Summernats is an annual event held in January each year.
Now these guys know how to do burnouts!
Just found this additional video clip of the Guiness world record which was set at the same event....
69 cars doing a simultaneous burnout !!!
In AUSTRALIA
Summernats is an annual event held in January each year.
Now these guys know how to do burnouts!
Just found this additional video clip of the Guiness world record which was set at the same event....
69 cars doing a simultaneous burnout !!!
Last edited by OzzyTom; 02-08-2013 at 01:20 AM.
02-08-2013, 05:06 AM
#38
Le Mans Master
I know my 72 454 will light up the tires with a gentle push to half throttle at anything from standstill to 30 or so mph. Just get the gas on and get ready to countersteer.
02-08-2013, 06:55 AM
#39
Le Mans Master
I have pretty poor launch traction with my '80 L48 having warmed over the engine, trans and differential. It is pretty easy to 'spin the tires' by just flooring it from a standing start (no 'neutral drop'). Tires scream into 2nd gear. I have the benefit of a 700R4 conversion so the deep first gear helps.
Granted, I don't generate any tire smoke but I'm not around to see it anyway.
Granted, I don't generate any tire smoke but I'm not around to see it anyway.
02-08-2013, 11:41 AM
#40
Le Mans Master
Line lock, stock motor 77 L-48
[IMG]
[/IMG]
[IMG]
[/IMG]