Is the GMPP Crate 502/502 streetable enough for a daily driver?
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Is the GMPP Crate 502/502 streetable enough for a daily driver?
If not, would the 502/450hp or 454/425hp be better? (I'm thinking about a mid-year coupe to build as a driver). Need some opinions from you guys who have 'em. Thanks!!!!!
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Re: Is the GMPP Crate 502/502 streetable enough for a daily driver? (Schmucker)
Yes, the 502/502 is very streetable. I know someone who has it in his El Camino. Great engine. Sounds awesome, very reliable etc. It's a torque monster for sure. One of the best crate motors out there - especially the Ram Jet version...
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Re: Is the GMPP Crate 502/502 streetable enough for a daily driver? (Tex71BB)
Yes it is! It is a very streetable motor, it is much smoother than my 350 with the edelbrock performer rpm package installed. I couldn't give this engine any higher marks from what I have experienced so far with mine. My exhaust on my car is WAY to small (2") and it is still crazy driving that thing. You will not have any regrets.
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Re: Is the GMPP Crate 502/502 streetable enough for a daily driver? (Tex71BB)
The engine is extremely tractable with a torque curve as flat as Kansas, with good characteristics for a street engine. However the, 502 block was developed as a marine powerplant and does not cool easily. Plan on upgrading the cooling system with the engine swap; a large aluminum radiator and electric auxilary fan(s) will save time and prevent future problems. Also make sure the rest of the drivetrain can handle the additional torque. Torque, not horsepower, leads to drivetrain failures. A tall hood and/or low rise manifold will also be required in addition to the many small fitment problems associated with any engine swap. You will be frying tires at even moderate RPM's.
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Re: Is the GMPP Crate 502/502 streetable enough for a daily driver? (Tex71BB)
Thanks for all the good info, guys! Sounds like the 502 is a winner all around. Now, I just have to decide whether I can bear to sell my '71 to do this :confused: .
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Re: Is the GMPP Crate 502/502 streetable enough for a daily driver? (Tex71BB)
Id have to disagree with mag 68. Ive had a 502/502 in my 68 for a year now, and not once have I had cooling probs. And thats with my stock 427 radiator and water pump. Crawling in traffic and on the highway, no prob. about 2 months ago, I did put on a edelbrock water pump, not due to cooling issues, but as a weight saver, as my stock water pump was 33 years old, and sooner or later, it was going to go.
I replaced my 427 with the GM 502, and the neat thing was is that my OEM intake (L-68 tri power with carbs), distributor, water pump. starter off my 427 fit right on my 502. Drawbacks is that headers for the 502 DO NOT bolt right on. Due to either the angle of the heads or the headbolts, headers will not fit directly on, as the header flanges bump against the head bolts. Modification to the header flanges mut be made, at least with my headman headers. Some other folks with 502's have mentioned they have had the same issue with headers. Oil pan that comes with the 502 WILL NOT work without mods to either the oil pan or cross member. Its a close fit, but will not clear the cross member. One member tried grinding a little clearence on the oil pan, and went thru it. You might be able to grind the cross member, Im not sure. I ordered a GM performance pan that will clear the cross memeber. Its about $130, comes with PU, dipstick, one peice gasket
Id drive this motor anywhere, anytime, with no worries. But then again, the price these things cost, you should be able to
I run my original M22 4 speed, and everything bolted right up. There is no boss for the clutch linkage ball on the block. You must make a bracket, or order one http://www.sdpc2000.com/cart.asp?act...=1006&pid=8875
As far as streetability, it purrs like a kitten. Just enough cam for a rumble on idle, and has pleanty of torque.
I replaced my 427 with the GM 502, and the neat thing was is that my OEM intake (L-68 tri power with carbs), distributor, water pump. starter off my 427 fit right on my 502. Drawbacks is that headers for the 502 DO NOT bolt right on. Due to either the angle of the heads or the headbolts, headers will not fit directly on, as the header flanges bump against the head bolts. Modification to the header flanges mut be made, at least with my headman headers. Some other folks with 502's have mentioned they have had the same issue with headers. Oil pan that comes with the 502 WILL NOT work without mods to either the oil pan or cross member. Its a close fit, but will not clear the cross member. One member tried grinding a little clearence on the oil pan, and went thru it. You might be able to grind the cross member, Im not sure. I ordered a GM performance pan that will clear the cross memeber. Its about $130, comes with PU, dipstick, one peice gasket
Id drive this motor anywhere, anytime, with no worries. But then again, the price these things cost, you should be able to
I run my original M22 4 speed, and everything bolted right up. There is no boss for the clutch linkage ball on the block. You must make a bracket, or order one http://www.sdpc2000.com/cart.asp?act...=1006&pid=8875
As far as streetability, it purrs like a kitten. Just enough cam for a rumble on idle, and has pleanty of torque.