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Old 07-06-2013, 11:17 AM
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Two weeks ago I installed a Breakerless SE kit. Can ran fine till it got hot then started breaking up. Back & forth to points & got that sorted out & working well. Went for a 40 mile test drive on the 4th with no problems. After the car cooled off I took out the coil - Accel 8140 - and painted it black to match the rest of the engine compartment.

Put it back together Fri am started the car backed it of of the garage to do some work. Went to start the car later to run some errands & the car wouldn't start, cranked over fine but would not fire. That's when I saw the smoke from the back edge of the hood.

It appears to have short between the starter & coil. I've so far unwrapped the harness between the starter & coil & have found no shorts nor bare wires.

I have a Powermaster 9612 gear reduction starter with their R terminal diode kit. I had .5 volts at the coil with the diode connected & now have 12.47 volts with it off.

http://www.summitracing.com/parts/pw...a/instructions

http://www.summitracing.com/parts/pwm-9612

Could the diode have gone bad? Any other suggestions? Gonna try it with out the R terminal diode connected & see what happens.

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Old 07-06-2013, 11:22 AM
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sounds like you need a better ground, and you've possibly fried it
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Originally Posted by oldalaskaman
sounds like you need a better ground, and you've possibly fried it
Fried what? The Breakerless SE? Put points back in this am & same thing. All grounds are intact along with the extra engine to frame ground

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you didnt state that in your first post, kinda narrows it down, any chance you hooked the coil up without the resister ...if required..
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Originally Posted by oldalaskaman
you didnt state that in your first post, kinda narrows it down, any chance you hooked the coil up without the resister ...if required..
True - missed that due to the case of severe aggravation The resistor wire is in the harness & intact. Tested the diode & get zero voltage drop in either direction. created a dead short. Tested without the "R" terminal connected and it fired up in 1/2 a crank. I'll leave that out for now and re wrap the harness.

Have a call into Powermasters tech support as the starter has been in for less than a month

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With those gear reduction mini starters, the voltage draw is low enough that it should work fine without the bypass wire(R terminal).
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With those gear reduction mini starters, the voltage draw is low enough that it should work fine without the bypass wire(R terminal).
That's mu new plan Just got back from a beer run Starts fine without it connected

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possibly dont need it, my mini starter says leave it off.
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Originally Posted by oldalaskaman
possibly dont need it, my mini starter says leave it off.
Mine too.
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