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Old 07-13-2014, 04:56 PM
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Default Thermostat change; need advice

I am preparing to flush the anti-freeze in my 1969 L46 and am thinking about replacing the thermostat while I am at it. It's not that I think the thermostat is faulty it's more that I don't know how old it is and figured I might as well change it out while I am doing this job.

What temperature thermostat are you guys running in your stock L46 Corvettes?
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190-195*
Old 07-13-2014, 05:43 PM
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Originally Posted by hugie82
190-195*
Old 07-13-2014, 07:40 PM
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If it is the original engine, I would go with the manufacturer's recommendation all day long. Given that Mike Ward agrees with the 190-195 number, I'm guessing (because I admit to not knowing), that is what GM installed. I know my '70 LS-5 came with a 180 degree, so that is what I use in my car.

I hope this doesn't turn into another heated discussion of thermostats....
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Originally Posted by PKguitar
heated discussion of thermostats....
Great pun!
Old 07-13-2014, 08:18 PM
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180 degree F.

The 195* stat was implemented for emissions purposes ONLY. It does nothing beneficial for the engine or the owner....and only a little bit for the environment. If you see useful value in that, put in the 195* stat. Or do it because Mike Ward told you to. Otherwise, install what the the SB design engineers thought was "optimum".

In any event, if your cooling system's stabilized temp is above 195*F, the question is moot....either will work just as well.
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Originally Posted by Mike Ward
Great pun!
I recently wrote a theatrical performance about puns; it's a play on words.

It's been a while for me Mike, but good to see you are still around! The kid-pendulum is starting to swing the other way, and I am getting back to into working on my car. I got wicked dirty Friday night, and smelled like old motor oil for 24+ hours, it was good.
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Go with a 180.

Drill two small holes in the flats 180 apart to help with venting the air
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I recommend the 180 with 2 small holes also.
Corvettes have no difficulty getting hot under the hood.
read up on refilling the system, it is always a problem getting all the air out of the system.
which leads to overheating after cooling system has been opened.
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Originally Posted by Mod75
Go with a 180.

Drill two small holes in the flats 180 apart to help with venting the air


I am NOT doing that unless Mike Ward tells me to dew-it!


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I don't know if I would go drilling holes in things unless I were trying to solve an existing problem. I have drained and refilled the cooling system on my '80 'vette several times, and I have never experienced any of these trapped air problems. Just poured coolant into the radiator and fired it up, just like any other car. Maybe I've just been lucky.

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Originally Posted by scottyp99
I don't know if I would go drilling holes in things unless I were trying to solve an existing problem. I have drained and refilled the cooling system on my '80 'vette several times, and I have never experienced any of these trapped air problems. Just poured coolant into the radiator and fired it up, just like any other car. Maybe I've just been lucky.

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My experience has been the same Scotty. Don't know what the issue is for some cars. I don't even have to fill the block or rad completely, just fire it up and let it cool down with fluid in the overflow and let it suck that up when it cools. After that it is full to the brim air pocket free.
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Originally Posted by doorgunner
I am NOT doing that unless Mike Ward tells me to dew-it!


If you have to drill holes in the Thermostat, there are other issues that need to be fixed!!

Been using high flow 180's for years with excellent results.
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this is a high flow thermostat

http://www.jegs.com/p/Stewart-Compon...15C=1907030351
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Originally Posted by MelWff
That's supposed to be the best and all I have used!
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Originally Posted by pws69
If you have to drill holes in the Thermostat, there are other issues that need to be fixed!!

Been using high flow 180's for years with excellent results.
The drill the hole idea serves only to bleed any air after a fresh fill. GM made seventy megasquillion of these engines, none of them had extra holes in the thermostat.

I've now changed my mind and recommend a 160* unit. I read in Boy Racer magazine that it gives more horsespowers and torques.
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Oooooo - thanks for the tip Mike, better get me one of those!!

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Originally Posted by MelWff
You do not need a $ 30.00 plus shipping thermostat . Just go and buy a regular ordinary one at any parts house .
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drilling a holes in a $5 thermostat helps you avoid the problem of Air lock / over heating, it is not permanent modification,
2 years from now when you refill your cooling system and your car overheats, you will be posting why is my car overheating ?
like every week here, we have someone asking this very question.
all I did was drain and add coolant, and 90% of time it is Air lock that is the problem.
you can listen to experience or not. life is full of choices. .... choice wisely
same for Thermostat temp. selection, you get better emission with a hotter Stat, no performance gain.
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Originally Posted by 69Vett
drilling a holes in a $5 thermostat helps you avoid the problem of Air lock / over heating, it is not permanent modification,
2 years from now when you refill your cooling system and your car overheats, you will be posting why is my car overheating ?
like every week here, we have someone asking this very question.
all I did was drain and add coolant, and 90% of time it is Air lock that is the problem.
you can listen to experience or not. life is full of choices. .... choice wisely
same for Thermostat temp. selection, you get better emission with a hotter Stat, no performance gain.
Nonsense!!



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