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Old 08-13-2014, 11:24 AM
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Default Ramjet ZL1 or Ramjet 502

Guys, I'm agonizing over this decision. I have the opportunity to buy a new in the crate Ramjet ZL1 for 15k. Only 200 of these engines were produced, all aluminum, etc.

A new Ramjet 502 would cost me $10,300.

ZL1 has mechanical lifters which concerns me a bit
Ramjet 502 has hydraulic

The 502 makes considerable more torque also

Decisions decisions... help me decide!
Old 08-13-2014, 11:27 AM
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I'd get the ZL1 engine, even with the price difference you mention. I believe the ZL1 is listed for $25k from chevy? It's probably more powerful than the 502 as is. an all aluminum big block is just too sweet to pass up..

BTW, mechanical lifters aren't that big a maintenance item.
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Originally Posted by AirBusPilot
I'd get the ZL1 engine, even with the price difference you mention. I believe the ZL1 is listed for $25k from chevy? It's probably more powerful than the 502 as is. an all aluminum big block is just too sweet to pass up..

BTW, mechanical lifters aren't that big a maintenance item.


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How much power do you really need or think you can get to the ground?

Mechanical lifters are the cats azz the engine revs to seamless.

With a good rocker you shouldnt have to touch them for a long time
Guys used to complain about having to adjust them a lot. Using those stock nuts they lose their "hold" witha good polylock or fresh factory nut they stay in place got no worries. Who wouldnt want an all aluminum 427
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The WOW factor alone makes the ZL1 the choice hands down! And it probably does make more power overall.
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I had Ram Jet ZL-1 #155 and loved it. You can't go wrong with a limited production engine, plus the fact that GM no longer produces the aluminum blocks.
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What's your usage? Looks like the 502 would be better for straightline and street stuff, while the ZL1 would be better if your car ever sees a road course.
Also looks like the 502 has more potential for future power increases too.
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Go the Zl1, you can always put a hyd roller in it for longevity.
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Guys, thanks very much for the input. Looks like I'm going the ZL1 route.

I don't track my car, just use it for occasional street use and an occasional car show. I think the ZL is the perfect complement to my car and you can't beat the "wow factor" when the hood is popped
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And if anyone is curious, here are some pics of my car. It's currently got a Ramjet 350 in it now, but I'm about to yank that motor and install it into a '65 Chevy pickup that I just bought.


















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A ramjet really is no beauty, I would never open the hood in public.
It´s another thing if you make the 502 looking like an original old BB like I did
Anyway, a 502 is nothing special, but maybe the better driver.

But a ZL1 is something you can be proud on. If you let it look like the old L88 you are the champ
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ZL1 all the way !! L88 is way kool and the 502 is nice but , a ZL1 is like the Holy Grail of Unobtainium. Been that way since i was just a Kid .
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Originally Posted by 69 Vette
Guys, thanks very much for the input. Looks like I'm going the ZL1 route.

I don't track my car, just use it for occasional street use and an occasional car show. I think the ZL is the perfect complement to my car and you can't beat the "wow factor" when the hood is popped
Five thousand dollars (difference) just for a wow factor at the local car show seems to be a poor use of a large chunk of money.

JMO
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Originally Posted by zuendler
A ramjet really is no beauty, I would never open the hood in public.
It´s another thing if you make the 502 looking like an original old BB like I did
Anyway, a 502 is nothing special, but maybe the better driver.

But a ZL1 is something you can be proud on. If you let it look like the old L88 you are the champ
Completely disagree, I'll walk right past a stock looking old BB, but a Ram Jet 350/502 I'll stop and take a look.
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i vote 502. if it were a real ZL-1 that would be one thing, but as nice as the zl1 continuation crate engine is , it isn't as potent.
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Originally Posted by 70LQ4
ZL1 all the way !! L88 is way kool and the 502 is nice but , a ZL1 is like the Holy Grail of Unobtainium. Been that way since i was just a Kid .


Limited number of ZL1 and then no longer available. You can put a 502 in any day.

Value of the car will be far better with the ZL1.
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Originally Posted by 69 Vette
Guys, I'm agonizing over this decision. I have the opportunity to buy a new in the crate Ramjet ZL1 for 15k. Only 200 of these engines were produced, all aluminum, etc.

A new Ramjet 502 would cost me $10,300.

ZL1 has mechanical lifters which concerns me a bit
Ramjet 502 has hydraulic

The 502 makes considerable more torque also

Decisions decisions... help me decide!
You could just build a 540 Dart Block and put ZL1 427 valve covers on it.
I've found 540's with 650 hp for less money than the ZL1.

Nice looking vette!

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Originally Posted by 69427
Five thousand dollars (difference) just for a wow factor at the local car show seems to be a poor use of a large chunk of money.

JMO
Pretty much true of anything you buy for a C3.
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Originally Posted by AirBusPilot
Pretty much true of anything you buy for a C3.
Respectfully, I gotta disagree with you. I've never spent extra money on any Corvette parts just to get a reaction from the show car crowd. (Actually, I've never entered a car show in my life.) I do spend money on performance parts that actually get used on the track though.
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you can buy or build a 540+ci bbc for under $15k. I like the idea of a lite engine for better handling .have you looked at a 427+ci sbc ?they can be built using a aluminum block .


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