bikerbilly18

After stopping at the store car wont start

barely turned over at all at 1st, now i don't ever hear a click.

fuel is good, i just replaced the starter= no effect
it has ground
brake light does not stay on after i turn key
Have auxiliary power and jump starting didnt help.
battery at 13v

ideas?

DUB

I can not remember if a 77 has the junction connector at the back of the right cylinder head...where the wiring from the starter comes up the firewall and connects to the main harness. The connection can get hot and loose contact. It should be a black 4 wire connector with the 12 gauge purple wire for your solenoid....along with a red wire and some others. I do not have the wiring diagram here at home.

Make sure the battery terminals are tight also.

Neutral safety switch issues. You can try turning the key while pressing down on the shifter **** button and slightly rocking the shifter forwards and backwards a little bit.

DUB

bikerbilly18

opps forgot to mention it is automatic,
tried starting from neutral= no effect
i disconnected and reconnected the 4 pin plug to the starter cable aswell
ran a 2nd ground with no effect aswell.
is it safe to run a hot wire direct from battery to jump start?

DUB

IF possible....that 12 gauge purple wire going to the starter that is in the four wire connector...IF you can see if it is getting power when you go to start the engine with a test light or better a volt meter.

You can try to jump the starter on the purple wire and see what happens....unless you new starter is bad at the solenoid.

GIVE it a try.

DUB

bluedawg

Try pulling the ground to frame and cleaning the connection. Another thing is to leave the key on and door open, shake and move wires on the starter and up in the harness in attempts to make a broken connection, this actually has worked for me in my vette.. If you hear the buzzer then you've found the source. Good luck and please let us know what you've found.

oops!

76CSRvette

this happened to me not long ago check wiring from starter. Mine was all dirty cleaned it up a little and made sure the fusible link wire was in right and bam started. all this after I tried a jump start went to az and had battery charged then after that I checked starter. but now I know.

68post

Have you checked the fusible link ?

bikerbilly18

turns out the wiring was the issue.... but still got the new starter in and she starts right up

One last issue:
the new starter does make a bit of a high pitched whine noise, so i installed 2 of the 3 included 0.15 shims and yet it sounds the same, should i expect this with a rebuilt starter?

doorgunner

The shims are normally added if the starter gear grinds when it tries to engage the ring gear....the shims give clearance between the two sets of teeth.

Shims are also used if the starter gears stays engaged to the ring gear after the key is released once the engine has started.

If you didn't notice either of these problems, the whine might be the teeth trying to "fit" against each other.....or the starter motor itself is making the whining noise.....keep an "ear"on it!