Fan motor stopped working.
#1
Melting Slicks
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Fan motor stopped working.
Hi, I believe there is a better fan motor that will fit the c3 to give it a bit more oomph. Did it come out of a truck or was it a C4 fan does anyone know?
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#4
Melting Slicks
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I have seen info regarding the output of the C4 fan being greater and it looks like the motor in my fan has died of old age so hopefully the C4 fan motor will fit, I know you have to put in a spacer to fit the C4 fan because it is longer.
#5
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If you go with a C4 motor, you'll have to add some wiring to your list of things to do.
#6
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I bought mine from NAPA for $27
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#10
Race Director
Great pics, thanks for sharing.
I wasn't disagreeing with you, per say, just stating that it looks like they went to a new blower motor in 85 and continued using the same motor the C3s used in 84. Your pictures tell the same story, the 73 motor looks very much like the 84 motor, minus a couple years of dirt and grime.
The "84 motor" looks a lot like the new motor I put in my 78 a few weeks ago as well, coming off of a 78 SKU. So effectively, the 84s are using a "C3 motor" and the 85+ are using a "C4 motor".
Regardless, your pictures do the forum a great service.
I'm running that setup in mine, except as said I told the parts shop "78" for the motor. If you haven't got a cage already, looks like just getting an 84 setup w/wheel is the easiest "point and click" way to get done.
Curious how well it works for you. Mine is not that great; I suspect I need to do wiring mods. Many others have stated this when discussing the conversion; ground is not good enough to get full voltage and the next step after that is updating power wires.
I wasn't disagreeing with you, per say, just stating that it looks like they went to a new blower motor in 85 and continued using the same motor the C3s used in 84. Your pictures tell the same story, the 73 motor looks very much like the 84 motor, minus a couple years of dirt and grime.
The "84 motor" looks a lot like the new motor I put in my 78 a few weeks ago as well, coming off of a 78 SKU. So effectively, the 84s are using a "C3 motor" and the 85+ are using a "C4 motor".
Regardless, your pictures do the forum a great service.
I'm running that setup in mine, except as said I told the parts shop "78" for the motor. If you haven't got a cage already, looks like just getting an 84 setup w/wheel is the easiest "point and click" way to get done.
Curious how well it works for you. Mine is not that great; I suspect I need to do wiring mods. Many others have stated this when discussing the conversion; ground is not good enough to get full voltage and the next step after that is updating power wires.
#11
Melting Slicks
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Blower started working again and then not and then yes. Seems I have a wiring issue. I jumpered straight from the back of the alternator to the blower and it runs but is noisier than it should be and I still think is should have more speed.
#13
Instructor
Physically the motors are identical. The only difference is where the steel mount is located.
Making the spacer out of black 3/4" UHMW plastic now. Will post pictures. I will trace a template when done if anyone is in need of it. Note: do not use the one on http://www.vettemod.com/. It does not fit. Trust me!
Making the spacer out of black 3/4" UHMW plastic now. Will post pictures. I will trace a template when done if anyone is in need of it. Note: do not use the one on http://www.vettemod.com/. It does not fit. Trust me!
#14
Melting Slicks
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Seems that later motors have a pipe to allow cooling air into the motor, this doesn't exist on the early ones. I have to wonder with the increase in fan size if the motor was made more powerful, it would be nice to know if they both draw the same amount of current, even that is not the be all and end all though as the later motor could also be more efficient.
#15
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Seems that later motors have a pipe to allow cooling air into the motor, this doesn't exist on the early ones. I have to wonder with the increase in fan size if the motor was made more powerful, it would be nice to know if they both draw the same amount of current, even that is not the be all and end all though as the later motor could also be more efficient.
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Instructor
OK here is the spacer I made. Took a while to make a template and Cut the plastic. Glad I went with the plastic it is much cleaner and durable than plywood. If anyone would like a copy I have it on a PDF file. PM me your email address and I will send it to you.
Last edited by Roozstr; 02-15-2015 at 12:49 PM.
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#17
Instructor
Got the blower motor in today. I can finally feel air blowing out my registers. I put a bore scope in the evaporator to see if there was any debris in it. Clean as a whistle. Blows about twice what the OE blower motor did. This vehicle has only 18,000 miles on it so I am sure the blower wasn't worn out. Made a ground wire that goes from the bottom two mounting screws to the lower mount bolt on the A/C compressor. That is the orange wire in the pic. I am a happy camper. Definitely worth it.
#18
Instructor
I think you have a 70? I have a 73 but I think they are pretty close. Is it high blow only that does not work or all speeds? If high only check the inline fuse near the horn relay. If all but high check blue, yellow and green at the resistor. Should have varying voltages depending on blower speed. . If all speeds it will probably be something inside like the blower switch, master switch or connections to any of those. Does it have a/c?
Sorry if I hijacked your thread but I was in the middle of doing what you were asking about and thought I would share.
Dave
Last edited by Roozstr; 09-05-2014 at 05:18 PM.
#19
Melting Slicks
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Hi Roozstr, all the speeds work when its working but it has no real blow if you know what I mean. Its like an old vacuum cleaner that has lost its suck, the motor still goes and all but no real grunt. I am going to pull the whole heater assy to pieces and check every thing "while I'm at it". Looks like the only way to find out is by substitution so I will order another motor as you have before I pull it all to bits. I already have a heavier ground wire fitted but it made no difference.
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Hi Roozstr, all the speeds work when its working but it has no real blow if you know what I mean. Its like an old vacuum cleaner that has lost its suck, the motor still goes and all but no real grunt. I am going to pull the whole heater assy to pieces and check every thing "while I'm at it". Looks like the only way to find out is by substitution so I will order another motor as you have before I pull it all to bits. I already have a heavier ground wire fitted but it made no difference.