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Old 10-31-2014, 12:20 PM
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Originally Posted by MotorHead
They are not proving anything other than make less HP than a bigger cam. It was suggested that the OP use a smaller cam and he said no he wanted a bigger cam and chose to go with a cam the same as Pauldana.
We can make more power in your mill with a smaller cam. Your leaving torque and HP on the table.
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Originally Posted by diehrd

I am also fuel injected I think .5 cr is not going to add more then single digits of hp .. And the head difference I am not so sure will matter as greatly as you think because as AFR shows 600 lift and down your heads only flow a few cfm more. So definitely not 65 hp worth of differences based on how we are each set up.

I am concerned however that you are using such a high % of power loss from motor to wheels ,, 15% with a manual not 23% .. If that is correct your not making anything close to 650 hp and my motor will not break 600
Motor head did an after and before and came out at 21% through a manual gear box if I remember correctly, if not then it was 23%.

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Motor head did an after and before and came out at 21% through a manual gear box if I remember correctly, if not then it was 23%.
My back-to-back tests came out at 22% loss, but with a TH400 auto trans......maybe Motorhead's losses included other factors....exhaust, rear end, tires, accessories, which may be more than average.
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Old 10-31-2014, 01:57 PM
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23% of 650hp is 150hp
22% of 650hp is 143hp

i show 510hp at the rear wheels.... so, ether way, I'm right around 650hp...

There have been more back to back's other than Wayne's (Moterhead) and they have also come up with the 20-25% loss numbers... our IRS rear-end eats power as well...

And the modern automatic transmissions are very good as far as power loss goes,,, not like the old th400's and the like
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Originally Posted by StraubTech
We can make more power in your mill with a smaller cam. Your leaving torque and HP on the table.
That's your opinion, I wish you would keep it to yourself.
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Old 10-31-2014, 05:25 PM
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Originally Posted by MotorHead
That's your opinion, I wish you would keep it to yourself.
No thats 18 years of camshafts sir.
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No thats 18 years of camshafts sir.
Whatever, your on this site way more than me and I'm retired
Where do find the time to spec in small camshafts for people
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Numbers!!! We want numbers!!!!'
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I been so busy all day .. I have the results ..

584 hp @ 6000
567 Tq @ 4700
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Originally Posted by diehrd
I been so busy all day .. I have the results ..

584 hp @ 6000
567 Tq @ 4700
Can you post the chart?
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That is going to be one fun c3 to drive......
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Old 10-31-2014, 09:03 PM
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Originally Posted by JimLentz
Can you post the chart?

Sure here ya go
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Old 10-31-2014, 09:30 PM
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Originally Posted by diehrd
I been so busy all day .. I have the results ..

584 hp @ 6000
567 Tq @ 4700
It was still pulling @ 6000.
How many runs?
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I am not sure that sheet was sent by Chris not the engine builder . There are a few pointers I was made aware of that will make a difference in the power so I have a few questions to ask and I need a good oil pan. I also think my headers are bigger the those used on the dyno and I have a better fuel delivery system making me able to run leaner up top.

It was at 12.7 A/F @6000 I can adjust those A/F tables which should also add to the power.
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Solid numbers!

They should have pulled it higher, it may have made more... BSFC looked pretty good... Should go bottom 11s in a C3... Gonna be a blast...

I hope the drivetrain has good stuff..
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Originally Posted by pauldana
Hmmmm this is fun.... Ok... Here are the differences I see... I am at 11:1 compression, my 220's are competition ported, I am fuil injected with controlled timing and AF... And a windage screen...

I was 510hp at the rear wheels in a tko600... Which would put me at say around 650max.... So, I'm going to say 585:-). I think the .5 cr and the head work is the major factor
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Sure here ya go
Originally Posted by diehrd
I been so busy all day .. I have the results ..

584 hp @ 6000
567 Tq @ 4700



Guess my guess was pretty much dead nuts on

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Old 11-01-2014, 12:48 AM
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Originally Posted by 63mako
It was still pulling @ 6000.
How many runs?
600 HP in six mths @ 6,500 RPM ?
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Old 11-01-2014, 04:14 AM
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21 HP less than a skip white 421 crate engine. Just saying.....
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Old 11-01-2014, 04:22 AM
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454 10:1 230 cam ported factory iron ovals 600hp all day for half the cost..what am I missing here????
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