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Old 11-25-2014, 09:30 PM
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I marked the driveshaft and one of the tires. Jacked the rearend up---both tires off the ground and tranny in neutral---rotated the tire one full revolution. The driveshaft turned 1 full revolution and part of another. Had my helper rotate the tire till the mark on the shaft lined up i its original spot---looked at the tire and the mark was almost exactly an extra 1/4 revolution of the tire. I expected at least 3 revs of the driveshaft. Where am I screwing this up???
1975 350 w/ th400 trans. tires are 245/60 15's.
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I may be wrong but I think that only works on manual transmissions, maybe someone will chime in with info on Auto's.
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I may be wrong but I think that only works on manual transmissions, maybe someone will chime in with info on Auto's.
After further thought I'm not sure if the transmission would make a difference, I'm sure someone will chime in with a correct response.
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You did the right way of determining the Gear Ratio but got the wrong answer. So this means there is something slipping, and that would be the Limited Slip, Posi Traction or what ever is in there. Try Turning the other Wheel and see what happens. If that doesn't work do it the other way around, turn the driveshaft x amount of times to get the wheels to turn one revolution.
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This may be a dumb question, but are you looking at the drive shaft and not the half shaft?
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I didn't check the other tire to see if it was turning, forward,backward or static. I was not marking the 1/2 shaft but the driveshaft behind the front u joint. Thanks for all the replies. I'll try the other side tomorrow and see what happens.
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This chart should get you close to the answer (even if a P.O. swapped "chunks" in the diff.)

72-75

Positraction 3:36 Ratio

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Positraction 3:36 Ratio

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Positraction 4:11 Ratio

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Positraction 3:70 Ratio

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Positraction 3:55 Ratio

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Positraction 3:08 Ratio

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I think the better way would be to rotate the drive shaft one turn and see how many times the tire(s) turn. This will give you the 'number' you are looking for. So if you turn the drive shaft EXACTLY one turn and the tire turns about 3.3 times then you are at 3.36:1. Best thing to do is scribe a small chalk line on each and maybe line it up with a jack stand or something then start. I don't think the limited slip would 'slip' just rotating by hand. This should give you exactly the correct ratio.
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Originally Posted by jim-81
I think the better way would be to rotate the drive shaft one turn and see how many times the tire(s) turn. This will give you the 'number' you are looking for. So if you turn the drive shaft EXACTLY one turn and the tire turns about 3.3 times then you are at 3.36:1. Best thing to do is scribe a small chalk line on each and maybe line it up with a jack stand or something then start. I don't think the limited slip would 'slip' just rotating by hand. This should give you exactly the correct ratio.
Jim
its actually the other way. count how many turns on the driveshaft it takes to turn the TIRE 1 time. 3.3 times on the driveshaft to 1 turn on the tire would equal to around 3.36:1 ratio.
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Originally Posted by 313hitman
its actually the other way. count how many turns on the driveshaft it takes to turn the TIRE 1 time. 3.3 times on the driveshaft to 1 turn on the tire would equal to around 3.36:1 ratio.
ahh! thanks and sorry
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Originally Posted by jim-81
I think the better way would be to rotate the drive shaft one turn and see how many times the tire(s) turn. This will give you the 'number' you are looking for. So if you turn the drive shaft EXACTLY one turn and the tire turns about 3.3 times then you are at 3.36:1. Best thing to do is scribe a small chalk line on each and maybe line it up with a jack stand or something then start. I don't think the limited slip would 'slip' just rotating by hand. This should give you exactly the correct ratio.
Jim
Good luck doing that by hand.
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Originally Posted by stumpshot
I marked the driveshaft and one of the tires. Jacked the rearend up---both tires off the ground and tranny in neutral---rotated the tire one full revolution. The driveshaft turned 1 full revolution and part of another. Had my helper rotate the tire till the mark on the shaft lined up i its original spot---looked at the tire and the mark was almost exactly an extra 1/4 revolution of the tire. I expected at least 3 revs of the driveshaft. Where am I screwing this up???
1975 350 w/ th400 trans. tires are 245/60 15's.
Thanks. Stump
Easy way to do this is mark your driveshaft and tire with white chalk. Count the driveshaft revolutions white someone rotates your tire one turn.
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Originally Posted by thegazman
Easy way to do this is mark your driveshaft and tire with white chalk. Count the driveshaft revolutions white someone rotates your tire one turn.
Exactly what I did but being lazy I went under once, marked the driveshaft and then slipped my iPad, on record, under the car and rotated the tire one revolution. Retrieved the ipadband watched the video.
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After marking, it might be easier to get an accurate count if you rotate the rear wheel 10 times while counting the driveshaft revolutions. Then divide that count by ten.
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Originally Posted by stumpshot
Exactly what I did but being lazy I went under once, marked the driveshaft and then slipped my iPad, on record, under the car and rotated the tire one revolution. Retrieved the ipadband watched the video.
You are just too hi-tech for me. LOL I'm just an old farm kid from the central valley. We never had a TV until I was in high school.

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