Crankcase Ventilation
#1
Safety Car
Thread Starter
Crankcase Ventilation
Anyone have any good advice or experience with a good quality way to ensure the crankcase is vented oh a higher hp performance motor
What have you used or are using that does the job well .
What have you used or are using that does the job well .
#2
Melting Slicks
Well, you did not give details on your set up, but following a stock system will work.
Or, I use a PCV on one valve cover, and a breather/oil fill on the other. Very common way. Make sure your breather holes are baffled if using custom covers.
Plumb w 3/8 hose to 3/8 size port on either carb or manifold (use a dedicated port).
Or, I use a PCV on one valve cover, and a breather/oil fill on the other. Very common way. Make sure your breather holes are baffled if using custom covers.
Plumb w 3/8 hose to 3/8 size port on either carb or manifold (use a dedicated port).
Last edited by mikem350; 01-28-2015 at 08:07 PM.
#3
Melting Slicks
If you use an electric pump the fuel boss cover is a easy good spot. You can buy a cover with a AN fitting or make your own. If you still got a mech pump, I've welded a tube onto the adapter in the lower corner. Buy some cheap clear hose at your local hardware store hose clamp and run either of those to a remote breather tank.
FYI headers evacs don't work with mufflers
FYI headers evacs don't work with mufflers
#4
Melting Slicks
If you use an electric pump the fuel boss cover is a easy good spot. You can buy a cover with a AN fitting or make your own. If you still got a mech pump, I've welded a tube onto the adapter in the lower corner. Buy some cheap clear hose at your local hardware store hose clamp and run either of those to a remote breather tank.
FYI headers evacs don't work with mufflers
FYI headers evacs don't work with mufflers
#5
Safety Car
Thread Starter
If you use an electric pump the fuel boss cover is a easy good spot. You can buy a cover with a AN fitting or make your own. If you still got a mech pump, I've welded a tube onto the adapter in the lower corner. Buy some cheap clear hose at your local hardware store hose clamp and run either of those to a remote breather tank.
FYI headers evacs don't work with mufflers
FYI headers evacs don't work with mufflers
#6
Melting Slicks
You sure caught my interest on this one. Since I have fabricated Valve Covers that have no Baffleling and I have issues sucking Oil. So what happens in this regard of sucking Oil down in the Fuel Pump area ?Since it is far enough down, and the vacuum source is higher up the Oil should naturally want to run back.
#7
Melting Slicks
#8
Burning Brakes
You sure caught my interest on this one. Since I have fabricated Valve Covers that have no Baffleling and I have issues sucking Oil. So what happens in this regard of sucking Oil down in the Fuel Pump area ?Since it is far enough down, and the vacuum source is higher up the Oil should naturally want to run back.
#9
Burning Brakes
Some know this, and some don't , but you don't want to use a stock or any type of pcv venting on a hi-perf engine. You do not want oil vapors pulled back into the intake.
There are breather/tanks (air - oil separators) that you can plumb into the upper part of the oil pan, or as mentioned use the fuel pump boss, or the intake manifold can have a hole drilled into it too. The tanks will have a petcock on the bottom to drain any captured oil.
They're cleaner than just a breather on a valve cover.
Look in a ; Stef's, Moroso, or Canton catalog, or any circle track vendors.
Stef's Crankcase/Oil pan vent system ; part #5130 for aluminum pans , and #5132 for steel pans.
http://www.stefs.com/catalog/2022tanks.pdf
There are breather/tanks (air - oil separators) that you can plumb into the upper part of the oil pan, or as mentioned use the fuel pump boss, or the intake manifold can have a hole drilled into it too. The tanks will have a petcock on the bottom to drain any captured oil.
They're cleaner than just a breather on a valve cover.
Look in a ; Stef's, Moroso, or Canton catalog, or any circle track vendors.
Stef's Crankcase/Oil pan vent system ; part #5130 for aluminum pans , and #5132 for steel pans.
http://www.stefs.com/catalog/2022tanks.pdf
Last edited by 68post; 01-29-2015 at 02:37 AM. Reason: no
#10
Safety Car
DO MA NEU!
#11
Melting Slicks
Again as I said earlier you can't use header evac with mufflers
#12
Racer
If you go to a mechanical/belt driven vacuum pump, you will need to also install a regulator so the system does not pull too much vacuum. Too much vacuum will starve the wrist pins for oil in a street application.
IMHO a vacuum pump on a street car is not worth the $$$$ for the return in HP.
I run Moroso breathers in each valve cover on my pig.
IMHO a vacuum pump on a street car is not worth the $$$$ for the return in HP.
I run Moroso breathers in each valve cover on my pig.
#14
Burning Brakes
Since we don't drive around at WOT ..the pcv will introduce the complete intake tract to oil .
Runners , back of intake valves, and combustion chambers - where it can very well cause spark knock. This is severe to a true high performance engine !
It is just an emission device , and the other emission devices that get omitted never create as much concern as a lowly pcv.
Runners , back of intake valves, and combustion chambers - where it can very well cause spark knock. This is severe to a true high performance engine !
It is just an emission device , and the other emission devices that get omitted never create as much concern as a lowly pcv.
#15
Melting Slicks
You know what they say about opinions.
Well got my community service in and answered a few question bout this n that GL
Well got my community service in and answered a few question bout this n that GL
#16
Safety Car
Since we don't drive around at WOT ..the pcv will introduce the complete intake tract to oil .
Runners , back of intake valves, and combustion chambers - where it can very well cause spark knock. This is severe to a true high performance engine !
It is just an emission device , and the other emission devices that get omitted never create as much concern as a lowly pcv.
Runners , back of intake valves, and combustion chambers - where it can very well cause spark knock. This is severe to a true high performance engine !
It is just an emission device , and the other emission devices that get omitted never create as much concern as a lowly pcv.
DO MA NEU!
#17
Burning Brakes
BOOT77, I'm not disputing that a header evacuation system will not work with exhaust backpressure , or that the factory emissions system isn't adequate for a stock engine. I'm not here to argue with anyone including yourself.
It's not my opinion - but a fact that a race engine doesn't incorporate a crankcase breather setup that pulls vapors into the intake tract for various reasons.
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#19
Safety Car
DO MA NEU!
#20
Safety Car
Thread Starter
Those questioning the exhaust evacuation , you do know it is supposed to be welded to the collector right ? It is the movement of exhaust gases that draws the crank case vapors out at least as I understand it.
So why would this not be a good system ?
So why would this not be a good system ?