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Old 05-26-2015, 11:26 AM
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Default Vintage Wheel Works "Vintage 48" wheels DO NOT clear stock calipers

Just wanted to contribute some knowledge on the VWW V48s since I couldn't find it prior to buying these wheels. Hopefully I can save someone else the trouble I'm in.

I ordered a set of the V48s in 16x8. Their web page for the wheels contains this sentence:

"This wheel has 3/4" clearance from the axle plane to the backside of the spokes and will fit over 4-piston Corvette brake calipers."

Unfortunately, the wheels do not clear the front calipers (on a '69). I made the mistake of not verifying their statement prior to having tires mounted, so I got a very unpleasant surprise when they didn't clear.





It's not a huge clearance issue - adding a ~3/16" spacer allows the wheels to fit. But they're clearly advertised inaccurately, so just be aware.

I've contacted Vintage Wheel Works to see what they have to say on the issue - I'll update when they respond.

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I have the V48 in 17" size, no issues. I know that doesn't help you. It's a great looking wheel.

Oh, I have Wilwood brakes.
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Originally Posted by AirBusPilot
I have the V48 in 17" size, no issues. I know that doesn't help you. It's a great looking wheel.
Oh, I have Wilwood brakes.
You post in the "wheels" thread was one of a few that made me go with these. I suspect that the Wilwoods must be a hair lower profile than the stockers, which would probably make them clear.
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Just pointing out they show a zero offset and stock would be -12MM

If that is true you are off by 1/2" compared to stock.
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Originally Posted by ddawson
Just pointing out they show a zero offset and stock would be -12MM

If that is true you are off by 1/2" compared to stock.
Thanks for the alert. I am aware - in back I'll run 1/2" spacers. In front the look and fit (other than the brakes) is ok, since I went with some wider tires so that the outer edge of the tire is in effectively the same place.
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Originally Posted by ddawson
Just pointing out they show a zero offset and stock would be -12MM

If that is true you are off by 1/2" compared to stock.
True, but the clearance issue is between the backside of the spokes and the calipers, which isn't a factor with offset.
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Originally Posted by leadfoot4
True, but the clearance issue is between the backside of the spokes and the calipers, which isn't a factor with offset.
Actually it is. As this is a cast wheel they probably cast one wheel that has an oversize mounting pad that they will machine down to make the different offsets. So on a 16x8 with 0mm offset, the spokes will be closer to the mounting flange. On a 16x8 with -12mm, the spokes will be further away from the mounting flange and therefore a bigger space to the spokes.
Sorry about the crappy diagram, but you can see that as size a becomes smaller (backspace), size b (mounting flange depth) becomes bigger and thus the spoke clearance becomes greater.
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Originally Posted by lvrpool32
Actually it is. As this is a cast wheel they probably cast one wheel that has an oversize mounting pad that they will machine down to make the different offsets. So on a 16x8 with 0mm offset, the spokes will be closer to the mounting flange. On a 16x8 with -12mm, the spokes will be further away from the mounting flange and therefore a bigger space to the spokes.
Sorry about the crappy diagram, but you can see that as size a becomes smaller (backspace), size b (mounting flange depth) becomes bigger and thus the spoke clearance becomes greater.
That all makes perfect sense generally, but VWW only make one backspacing/offset in this wheel in a 16x8, and that one model is the one they describe above.

Now, if they wanted to make up their mistake by sending me a set of 16x8s with a 4" BS (with a larger pad to clear the calipers) I'd be all over it...
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Originally Posted by 69_427_SBC
That all makes perfect sense generally, but VWW only make one backspacing/offset in this wheel in a 16x8, and that one model is the one they describe above.

Now, if they wanted to make up their mistake by sending me a set of 16x8s with a 4" BS (with a larger pad to clear the calipers) I'd be all over it...
I have dealt with VWW a lot over the years (think my car is still in one of their galleries with the V48's on) and I would be very surprised if they don't work with you to fix this issue, they are good people.
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Originally Posted by 69_427_SBC
You post in the "wheels" thread was one of a few that made me go with these. I suspect that the Wilwoods must be a hair lower profile than the stockers, which would probably make them clear.
Sorry to hear that. I guess my 17's have a different offset?
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Originally Posted by lvrpool32
Actually it is. As this is a cast wheel they probably cast one wheel that has an oversize mounting pad that they will machine down to make the different offsets. So on a 16x8 with 0mm offset, the spokes will be closer to the mounting flange. On a 16x8 with -12mm, the spokes will be further away from the mounting flange and therefore a bigger space to the spokes.
Sorry about the crappy diagram, but you can see that as size a becomes smaller (backspace), size b (mounting flange depth) becomes bigger and thus the spoke clearance becomes greater.
I understand what you're saying, but you're introducing a second variable, that being the thickness of the wheel mounting pad. Most of the wheels I've dealt with, over the years, have a common thickness in the wheel pad, and vary offset by where the wheel center is mated to the rim....
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Hi,

I got caught with exactly the same problem with wheels from US Mags. It seems the "caliper height" you see in the drawing below is not always specified.


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