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Old 08-03-2015, 11:56 AM
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Hi guys Hope someone out there can help a newbie .I have a 1980 Corvette that I adore .The Prob. that Im having , Hopefully -is maybe a Ground thats not starting my Vette.The Battery is New and had it checked out with a Good approval.So I know that is not a issue. Some Buddy of mine Told me it can be a ground link going to the Starter. He says its common on a 1980 Corvette. I cranked the Vette But No Start and the Lights not working ,It seemed it went out of wack..When the prob. accord is when I started it . It cranked twice then Nothing No sound No Lights ..Please Help It would be greatly Appreciated Thnks Guys
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Define "not starting". Is it cranking and not firing? Not cranking? When you replaced the battery, are you certain the battery cables are connected well?
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QUOTE=Easy Mike;1590189528]Define "not starting". Is it cranking and not firing? Not cranking? When you replaced the battery, are you certain the battery cables are connected well?[ QUOTE]
Thank you for the reply Greatly Appreciated ..Does Not Crank No Noise No Lights .No sound Whatsoever . Its just went Silent . I hope that Helps Easy Mike Much Thanks
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QUOTE=CalsVette;1590189586] QUOTE=Easy Mike;1590189528]Define "not starting". Is it cranking and not firing? Not cranking? When you replaced the battery, are you certain the battery cables are connected well?[ QUOTE]
Thank you for the reply Greatly Appreciated ..Does Not Crank No Noise No Lights .No sound Whatsoever . Its just went Silent . I hope that Helps Easy Mike Much Thanks[/QUOTE]The Problem Started when I went to a car show it was a hot day that day but it started No Probs. Then 30 seconds later .It Cranked with hesitation .Then Nothing No Firing No Crank .The Battery Was installed last year. Battery Terminals very good and Tight No corrosion
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Have you checked the fuses? Do you have a voltmeter?
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How long ago did the battery test as good? Might be time to retest it.
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QUOTE=tonak;1590189945]How long ago did the battery test as good? Might be time to retest it.[ QUOTE] 2 days ago . They said the battery is so good it can start a 1930 Truck . Terminals are Good No Corrosion .But No Crank Not even a sound Lights dont even work .I dont get .
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QUOTE=JimLentz;1590189940]Have you checked the fuses? Do you have a voltmeter?[ QUOTE] Im not sure that I have a Voltmeter,Im not sure if your talking about the fuse under the Dash.? or any other Fuse I should look for Thnk you
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If you have NO LIGHTS then you have a broken connection somewhere in the battery cables. Did you go under the car and check the ground cable to the frame? If that's good you will need to drop the starter and check the positive cable connection. On a hot day, I'll put my money on burnt starter wires at the starter.
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You may have melted a 'fusible link'.
Look down by the starter and see if they are good or not.

Fusible links are listed as 'thermo' on this schematic.
http://www.vetteprojects.com/bmv/mis...tte%201980.pdf
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I had a 74 long ago, same issues as you. My ground cable from battery to engine ground had corroded in the middle completely . Take a jumper cable from battery ground to engine ground, see if that will get it to start. Mark
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QUOTE=hugie82;1590191322]If you have NO LIGHTS then you have a broken connection somewhere in the battery cables. Did you go under the car and check the ground cable to the frame? If that's good you will need to drop the starter and check the positive cable connection. On a hot day, I'll put my money on burnt starter wires at the starter.[ QUOTE]That sounds about right .Well check underneath .Thank you .let u know Tomorrow. thx Hugie
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QUOTE=Syl1953;1590191528]I had a 74 long ago, same issues as you. My ground cable from battery to engine ground had corroded in the middle completely . Take a jumper cable from battery ground to engine ground, see if that will get it to start. Mark[ QUOTE]Will try Mark Ill lt you know Thx
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Originally Posted by hugie82
If you have NO LIGHTS then you have a broken connection somewhere in the battery cables. Did you go under the car and check the ground cable to the frame? If that's good you will need to drop the starter and check the positive cable connection. On a hot day, I'll put my money on burnt starter wires at the starter.
Thank you all for the reply's you guys are Super Great .Yes indeed it was a Bad Ground from the Battery. Had a Booster Cable Neg. ground to the Body and Walla it started. But Now is to find the Bad Grounding. If anyone has a suggestion It would be Appreciated Once again Thank you from the bottom of my Heart ..Reg. CalsVette
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On mine the ground cable from battery to engine ground had corroded completely inside the cable jacket/insulation. Replaced complete cable.
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On mine the ground cable from battery to engine ground had corroded completely inside the cable jacket/insulation. Replaced complete cable.
Hi Syl if u don't mind answering this Qs:Ware about did you have that corrosion on ur Vette Right side of the Engine or Left Just trying to pin point .Thx Syl Hope it wasnt a lame Q: Thx
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check to see if you are getting power at the starter.if you are not check the connector be hind the passenger head .there is a connector with several wires that burns up.
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Default 1980 Ground problem starter pls. Help

The corrosion can happen anywhere that is metal. I would've the battery ground. Should be a large cable underneath the car from the battery box directly to the frame. Since you say you had no lights and placing a cable from the battery to frame ( assuming you meant frame and not the body) alleviated the symptoms, i would start there.
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CV, VetteKid is correct ,battery cable from negative battery terminal to where it is attached to frame (it has been 35 years since I had the problem, getting CRS, can't remember s...) mine was corroded under car looked like a cancer in cable,swollen. Must have been nicked/cut at one time or another. I replaced complete cable instead of splicing. Mark

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