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Old 08-27-2015, 05:45 PM
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i was experimenting and rigged the aux fan with a controller to come on early.

deleted the stock fan and with 97 degree weather, the coolant in the reservoir was boiling

i was driving long stretches, at good speed 45+ mph and the temps did not subside ( that's weird)


meanwhile I need to know how to read the gauge...freakin lame markings

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If I had to guess, starting with the second fat mark, 200. then 220, 240, and the bottom of the red is maybe 250, top of red 260, all being too hot. You need the stock fan back unless the reading you have there is better than stock. I would not be happy with anything over 200-210 at cruising speed.
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Originally Posted by flyeri
If I had to guess, starting with the second fat mark, 200. then 220, 240, and the bottom of the red is maybe 250, top of red 260, all being too hot. You need the stock fan back unless the reading you have there is better than stock. I would not be happy with anything over 200-210 at cruising speed.
then i saw 240 today


why does chevy even want to make me guess at something so important???, yes, looking to try a e- pusher fan, if that does not work the stock goes back in
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if that does not work the stock goes back in

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What a great idea!
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I put a 2nd gauge in my 72 because I thought the stock gauge was reading too high and I didn't really even know what it was reading. I tested the new gauge before putting it in....It was dead on with boiling water. The stock gauge was reading 220-230 but the new gauge was 180-190. I plan on leaving it in place as a back up even after I install the temperature gauge adjustable resistor that Wilcox offers.

Here is a pic of the gauge I used...Cheap to 18 bucks.



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I had a similar high water temp when I first installed an electric fan. Check the rotation of the fan, you may be going in the wrong rotation.
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Originally Posted by mikep3
I had a similar high water temp when I first installed an electric fan. Check the rotation of the fan, you may be going in the wrong rotation.

i am using the aux fan only, turned on waaaaay earlier..... it blows more air than the 2350 cfm 16 incher i just bought.... go figure...


regardless not doing the trick....


TO THIS MINUTE NO ONE HAS BEEN ABLE TO TELL ME WHAT THE TEMP IS....
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Originally Posted by mikep3
I had a similar high water temp when I first installed an electric fan. Check the rotation of the fan, you may be going in the wrong rotation.
it's a puller... it's stock aux fan that came with the car
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230. If you look at the first mark as 225, the next as 230, 235 the spacing would make the start of the red 245 and the spacing from there to 260 would appear right. Really lame gauge, but none the less, the temp is running high. I don't like when mine runs 200. Good luck.

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As Flyeri stated, anything over that 210 is a real concern. Looking at the gauge in the photo, I can't tell you exactly what the temperature is, but I would use an infrared thermometer and aim it right at the thermostat housing. That will be the hottest the coolant will be as it leaves the engine. Also a comparison to the temperature leaving the radiator might help finding out what's going on. Is this an automatic? Is the coolant a 50/50 mix? The infrareds have come down in price and even a cheap one is going to be accurate to a degree or two. You don't need one that is accurate to .1 degree and borrowing one is even better.
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the oem aux fan was never meant to cool by itself. it was a supplement to the clutch fan.
during AC use. get a HD clutch for the engine driven fan and use both.
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Originally Posted by speedreed8
the oem aux fan was never meant to cool by itself. it was a supplement to the clutch fan.
during AC use. get a HD clutch for the engine driven fan and use both.
i read from a search a "member" used only the aux fan and had no issues, yesterday was a very hot day in los angeles, but i need to supplement the aux

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Originally Posted by slickfx3
i read from a search a "member" used only the aux fan and had no issues, yesterday was a very hot day in los angeles, but i need to supplement the aux
Is this an 81?
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Originally Posted by big2bird
is this an 81?
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That fan is an aux unit operating off a switch on the pass side head. It only comes on when the stock fan cannot keep up with the heat load.
It will not cool that car by itself, and the switch comes on only at higher temps.
The A/C does not control it, only high temps.
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Originally Posted by Big2Bird
That fan is an aux unit operating off a switch on the pass side head. It only comes on when the stock fan cannot keep up with the heat load.
It will not cool that car by itself, and the switch comes on only at higher temps.
The A/C does not control it, only high temps.

i could not take the sensor off , it is seized in there, i put in a variable controller, with a tube in the radiator, you are right the aux is too weak for daily chores....
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Hence why it's called an 'auxiliary'. With the car being an A/C equipped model, as stated earlier, you need to make sure you have the HD clutch on the original fan - and that it works. Proper insulation around the radiator to force the air where you want, as well as an intact fan shroud, and you should notice a significant difference.

You may feel the need to go to electric fans, and many guys here have made the switch quite easily and efficiently.

Either way, I have to agree with the guys that merely using a 'back up' factory part to do the full job just isn't gonna cut it. Especially in your climate and traffic environment.

Good luck.

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Hence why it's called an 'auxiliary'. With the car being an A/C equipped model, as stated earlier, you need to make sure you have the HD clutch on the original fan - and that it works. Proper insulation around the radiator to force the air where you want, as well as an intact fan shroud, and you should notice a significant difference.

You may feel the need to go to electric fans, and many guys here have made the switch quite easily and efficiently.

Either way, I have to agree with the guys that merely using a 'back up' factory part to do the full job just isn't gonna cut it. Especially in your climate and traffic environment.

Good luck.
what is a HD? clutch vs a normal clutch?, i have the stock one and don't know squat as to what the clutch suppose to do or not do
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normal usually spins the fan at about 60% shaft speed. and hd turns it about 80-90% of shaft speed. most auto parts stores only carry the normal clutch. rockauto carries the HD thermal one usually came on the 79 L82 model and earlier.
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Originally Posted by slickfx3
what is a HD? clutch vs a normal clutch?, i have the stock one and don't know squat as to what the clutch suppose to do or not do
A properly working clutch fan operates on temperature, when the engine is hot, the fan will engage to help cool. A properly working fan will spin fairly free when the unit is cold and tighten up as it gets hot. When hot, the fan blades move more air as the temperature increases. So, do you have the mechanical fan in place and if so is it working correctly?
The clutch is replaceable and the fan bolts to it. If you replace your clutch, make sure of the correct shaft diameter (water pump shaft that sticks out to center the fan) before leaving the parts store.

I have a 383 with a stock radiator, no aux. fan and on a 90 degree day I don't go above 210. I did replace the clutch fan when I dropped the engine in.


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