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Old 04-17-2003, 04:11 PM
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Default Crossfire to Non-Crossfire?

What would it take to convert crossfire to non-crossfire? Any computer mods or just carb mods. Want to buy 81 but looking at an 82 and have not heard good things about crossfire system.
Old 04-17-2003, 05:41 PM
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Default Re: Crossfire to Non-Crossfire? (Skyhigh)

Shyhigh, what are your 'plans' for the C3? Is is strictly for daily driving? Many highway miles? Make a 'Stop-Light Bandit' out of it? If the '82 you're looking at is in good working order, and you don't mind it running high-15/low-16 second ETs, leave the CF alone. I've put 7,000+ miles on mine in three summers; not many, granted, but I've had NO problems what-so-ever, AND I get 23+ MPG @ 75 MPH! I'm in contact with other CF-owners, who tell me that some mods (exhaust, gear-swap) can make these run low-15/high 14 second ETs. You can investigate the Cross-Fire Vault for even more technical info. One young man runs in the 11s @ 119+ MPH (that is Z06-style times, my friend!) with gears, exhaust, and a healthy dose of N2O. Don't dis-regard the CF right away; it may be for you! :chevy :chevy :chevy
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Default Re: Crossfire to Non-Crossfire? (Glensgages)

Cross fires run fine, they just got a bad rap.

If you want to convert to non-computer control:
Replace intake manifold, carb, distributor.
You may also need a way to have the transmission do lock-up in fourth gear, and then you can ditch the computer as well. Kit's for lock-up range from $75 -$250 depending on features.

If you get rid of the distributor, let me know. I need a computer controled HEI distributor.
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Default Re: Crossfire to Non-Crossfire? (Glensgages)

DesertDawg ran a 15.13 in a stock (bone stock) '82 Collectors edition.
With a smaller person, some race gas, good exhaust system, rear gear swap - you could be in 14.7 range.
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Default Re: Crossfire to Non-Crossfire? (BSeery)

DesertDawg ran a 15.13 in a stock (bone stock) '82 Collectors edition.
With a smaller person, some race gas, good exhaust system, rear gear swap - you could be in 14.7 range.
The 'Dawg' told me he'd added Borla mufflers to his C.E. at EXACTLY the same time the insides of his catalytic converter 'fell out' :lol: :D :lolg: . I'd think if he'd ('DesertDawg') install 2.5" exhaust and headers, he'd run high-14s (easily), and a with a gear swap (3.55s?), mid-14s. A guy told me he picked-up 6/tenths, going from the stock 2.87s to 3.55s alone! :eek: I'm not too sure that 'racing gas' will help a 9:1 motor. I seem to remember guys with 5.0 Mustangs in the late-'80s saying that racing gas actually HURT their ETs, but I can't remember exactly why..... :confused:
Old 04-18-2003, 03:25 AM
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Default Re: Crossfire to Non-Crossfire? (Skyhigh)

Yes the crossfire is a good setup, it starts every for me. and I have had zero problems with it. They are not screamers, more civilized than the older vettes but still fun.

If you get the 82, and still want to yank the crossfire, I will take the manifold and throttle bodiesoff your hands, like Bseery said you only need a few parts to change it out.

And welcome to the Corvette Forum. :seeya
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Default Re: Crossfire to Non-Crossfire? (Desertdawg)

I will take the manifold and throttle bodiesoff your hands
You're not planning on going faster are you? Addicted to the strip?
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You're not planning on going faster are you? Addicted to the strip?
No, Just want it to run a little better. :D
Old 04-18-2003, 10:29 AM
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Default Re: Crossfire to Non-Crossfire? (Skyhigh)

I don't have crossfire, but I'd like to have one. I think the benefits of fuel injection are considerable. I'd gladly give up some performance for the lack of hassle and improved fuel economy.

Old 04-18-2003, 10:42 AM
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Default Re: Crossfire to Non-Crossfire? (joeveto)

I've got a couple of them crossfire systems lying around... if only shipping wasn't as expensive I'd be rid of that poopie already :)
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Default Re: Crossfire to Non-Crossfire? (Twin_Turbo)

Thanks for all your inputs. I'll see what price I can get the 82 for.
Old 04-18-2003, 03:37 PM
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Default Re: Crossfire to Non-Crossfire? (Skyhigh)

I have an 82 with 105K miles on it. Runs great ...I use it to cruise....its definitely not a street light racer.

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Default Re: Crossfire to Non-Crossfire? (Twin_Turbo)

I've got a couple of them crossfire systems lying around... if only shipping wasn't as expensive I'd be rid of that poopie already :)
Tease me why dont you..... :mad :D

the shipping would be more than the parts are worth. :lol:
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Default Re: Crossfire to Non-Crossfire? (Desertdawg)

Well... if shipping is via a 4-6 week method it's pretty reasonable. I've had a huge radiator (31X17X6) shipped for about 50$



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Old 04-19-2003, 01:54 PM
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Default Re: Crossfire to Non-Crossfire? (Twin_Turbo)

I still use my 82 as my daily driver...running without problems for over a year now,with very decent fuel economy.
Not the fastest Vette around,but very good for daily use!
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Default Re: Crossfire to Non-Crossfire? (Pete Z)

The shipping on two exhaust manifolds (not nearly as big or heavy as a fully loaded intake manifold) from AZ to England ran $118.00
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Default Re: Crossfire to Non-Crossfire? (BSeery)

hmm.. that was not 4-6 weeks USPS was it?

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Old 04-19-2003, 08:55 PM
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hmm.. that was not 4-6 weeks USPS was it?
I think FedEx was the cheapest believe it or not. And they did a 7-10 day. UPS and USPS were more and would take 4-6 weeks.

Find out the weight of a complete intake, and dimensions giving 4"s all the way around for packing material and you can get an estimate on shipping.
Old 04-20-2003, 01:20 AM
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Default Re: Crossfire to Non-Crossfire? (Twin_Turbo)

SO Marck, if shipping is not very much. How much do you want for your intake and throttle bodies? Together or seperate.....
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Default Re: Crossfire to Non-Crossfire? (Desertdawg)

don't have TB's... sold my last set some time ago. Might want to check over on the crossfire vault. Also, maybe Ken73 has an intake, I think he has a few and will even do the work on them.


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