What would you say to this issue?
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Re: What would you say to this issue? (SouthernC3)
Phone some of the owners. If the seller is not blowing smoke up your **** then he shouldnt have a problem with it. No biggie, but 9 is quite a lot IMHO.
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Re: What would you say to this issue? (SouthernC3)
On average, each owner had it for a little over 3 years. There were probably some "players" in the mix there.
If you're looking for a one owner 29-year-old car for around $9k, e-mail me.
If you're looking for a one owner 29-year-old car for around $9k, e-mail me.
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Re: What would you say to this issue? (SouthernC3)
That depends is it a stick or auto? If its a stick, you NEED a new clutch, after having at least 9 different people drive it.
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Re: What would you say to this issue? (SouthernC3)
The number of owners has no affect on worth. Many collector cars change hands yearly. It's the condition of the car that justifies the price. In your referenced case, you are in a better position than most of us. Mine is a previous two-owner car. The first owner (according to the person I purchased the car from back in '86) had the car for about five years and that's about all I know of the car's original history. No names, no history, no nothing. At least you can put a living history together for your car.
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Re: What would you say to this issue? (gerry72)
My first vette had five different owners and was painted three different colors before I got it. You are doing well with a clean history like that. Joe
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Re: What would you say to this issue? (77Dream)
Well, my father bought the car from the original owner, then my dad gave the car to me, although I'm the only one who really drove it and took care of it after he bought it.
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Re: What would you say to this issue? (SouthernC3)
If the car is in good shape I wouldl think that the number of owners is only something worth bragging about and has little actual impact on the car itself. Just my 2 cents. :thumbs:
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Re: What would you say to this issue? (SouthernC3)
We all know how much work you've done to your car, which was already in excellent condition. If anyone has doubts, just send over to the forum :yesnod:
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Re: What would you say to this issue? (page62)
My car had four owners in the last six years before I bought it. Fortunately, I knew all of them, and I know the history of the car that far back. Of course, I only know the names of two of the owners prior to that, and very little about the history of the car, other than what I've been able to deduce from the clues that Bubba and his friends left behind.
The number of owners for your car does not surprise me, nor does it lessen it's value imho. However, while the documentation is a nice thing to have, I don't think in the case of this particular car, it adds significantly to its value. It may help the buyer with his or her decision, but ultimately, it's all subjective anyway. I think the biggest value of documentation is when you're dealing with a very low mileage car, or a one- or two-owner car, and you want to verify that the car is as represented (no funny business with the odometer, etc.). Particularly on a very rare car, or a 'survivor' car. Just my .02.
Best of luck selling your car. I'm sure someone will be very happy to get it.
The number of owners for your car does not surprise me, nor does it lessen it's value imho. However, while the documentation is a nice thing to have, I don't think in the case of this particular car, it adds significantly to its value. It may help the buyer with his or her decision, but ultimately, it's all subjective anyway. I think the biggest value of documentation is when you're dealing with a very low mileage car, or a one- or two-owner car, and you want to verify that the car is as represented (no funny business with the odometer, etc.). Particularly on a very rare car, or a 'survivor' car. Just my .02.
Best of luck selling your car. I'm sure someone will be very happy to get it.
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Re: What would you say to this issue?
As a buyer, you are considering the purchase of a 30+ year old Corvette. You have never owned one before and little about the cars and their background.
From your initial comments, probably the best advice that I can offer you is to find someone who does know these cars in detail. Enlisting the help of an experienced advisor will avoid problems and save you money in the long run... Even if you have to pay for the services of such a person.
Of course finding someone knowledgeable in the model year(s) that you are interested in can be as difficult as finding the right car. The group of people who think they know Corvettes is much larger than the group of people that actually do know a thing or two.
The seller tells you the car has had nine previous owners. A complete listing of the previous owner's names, addresses and phone numbers are provided by the seller as well as a well written history of the car based on extensive interviews with the previous owners which includes no wrecks, and no damage history.
Most of the owners sold or traded the car for the normal reasons, marriage, children, and the need for a large car. That being said, one would always like to find a 30+ year old car that has one owner but when that is the case, the price can be considerable although that is not always the rule.
So here is my question. If a 32 year old Corvette had nine previous owners, a clear history and documentation, would that be something to be overly concerned about when deciding to purchase the car or not. Your thoughts please.
Good luck with your decision!
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Re: What would you say to this issue? (SouthernC3)
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well written history of the car based on extensive interviews with the previous owners
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This seem a little strange and has an element of :bs but he may just be into the history of the car. Be skeptical of the no accidents no damage claim. At what point does a fender bender become an accident The overall consideration is the condtion on the car. Average ownership would be about 3 years so that makes sense
well written history of the car based on extensive interviews with the previous owners
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This seem a little strange and has an element of :bs but he may just be into the history of the car. Be skeptical of the no accidents no damage claim. At what point does a fender bender become an accident The overall consideration is the condtion on the car. Average ownership would be about 3 years so that makes sense
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Re: What would you say to this issue? (SouthernC3)
Well, let me put it into perspective.
If you know all the 9 owners names, etc. - then you are one giant leap ahead
of most people here. Most folks are lucky to know/rememebr the previous
owners name. Most likely - the extent of documentation is a folder of receipts
that the owner(s) have collected to justify a value. The age of your vette
should indicate a list of owners, maybe some mods, and definitely a paint job.
People rarely keep the same color when shelling out for new paint. Key word = new.
Compare this with a SUV that I am currently purchasing:
It is a one owner 1998 Chevy Tahoe with an absolutely pristine body/undercarriage.
It was traded in at a dealer - subsequently auctioned off to a couple guys that
sell on Ebay. I bargained privately with them. This beautiful truck is a single
owner garaged vehicle - BUT: I questioned the absence of the rear seat
headrests. Hmmmm - says the selling dude. I ask why the tire jack is missing.
The dude shrugs his shoulders. When asked about the missing cargo area
cover (shade) - he doesn't even know what I'm talking about. I realized
yesterday that I am buying a truck with 100k miles and absolutely NO history.
Well, it would be nice to have some questions answered - but I won't. I settle
for knowing that the truck is clean, solid, and runs great. The truck's history
starts tomorrow - as far as I'm concerned. C'est La Vie
So - knowing your vette's history goes a long way for perspective buyers -
in that they feel like the seller actually KNOWS the car he is selling.
ex: Buyer: Why is this yellow paint showing under the red:
Seller: Oh - Bob McDonald had the vette painted by CF Bros body shop in 1992.
Buyer: Oh - OK. (feeling good that he got a straight-up honest answer)
Good luck selling (you traitor) :jester :seeya
[Modified by NHvette, 4:29 PM 8/6/2003]
If you know all the 9 owners names, etc. - then you are one giant leap ahead
of most people here. Most folks are lucky to know/rememebr the previous
owners name. Most likely - the extent of documentation is a folder of receipts
that the owner(s) have collected to justify a value. The age of your vette
should indicate a list of owners, maybe some mods, and definitely a paint job.
People rarely keep the same color when shelling out for new paint. Key word = new.
Compare this with a SUV that I am currently purchasing:
It is a one owner 1998 Chevy Tahoe with an absolutely pristine body/undercarriage.
It was traded in at a dealer - subsequently auctioned off to a couple guys that
sell on Ebay. I bargained privately with them. This beautiful truck is a single
owner garaged vehicle - BUT: I questioned the absence of the rear seat
headrests. Hmmmm - says the selling dude. I ask why the tire jack is missing.
The dude shrugs his shoulders. When asked about the missing cargo area
cover (shade) - he doesn't even know what I'm talking about. I realized
yesterday that I am buying a truck with 100k miles and absolutely NO history.
Well, it would be nice to have some questions answered - but I won't. I settle
for knowing that the truck is clean, solid, and runs great. The truck's history
starts tomorrow - as far as I'm concerned. C'est La Vie
So - knowing your vette's history goes a long way for perspective buyers -
in that they feel like the seller actually KNOWS the car he is selling.
ex: Buyer: Why is this yellow paint showing under the red:
Seller: Oh - Bob McDonald had the vette painted by CF Bros body shop in 1992.
Buyer: Oh - OK. (feeling good that he got a straight-up honest answer)
Good luck selling (you traitor) :jester :seeya
[Modified by NHvette, 4:29 PM 8/6/2003]
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Re: What would you say to this issue? (SouthernC3)
Rick,
I have been the owner of many Corvettes.
I flat don't care how many people have owned the car or who they were.
What I do care about is the condition of the car.
I let the car stand on its own. It can speak for itself.
I have been the owner of many Corvettes.
I flat don't care how many people have owned the car or who they were.
What I do care about is the condition of the car.
I let the car stand on its own. It can speak for itself.
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Re: What would you say to this issue? (bamavettes)
Rick,
I have been the owner of many Corvettes.
I flat don't care how many people have owned the car or who they were.
What I do care about is the condition of the car.
I let the car stand on its own. It can speak for itself.
I have been the owner of many Corvettes.
I flat don't care how many people have owned the car or who they were.
What I do care about is the condition of the car.
I let the car stand on its own. It can speak for itself.
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Re: What would you say to this issue? (gerry72)
The number of owners has no affect on worth. Many collector cars change hands yearly. It's the condition of the car that justifies the price. In your referenced case, you are in a better position than most of us.
The value comes down to condistion and who's looking at the car.
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Re: What would you say to this issue? (pzcg7l)
Makes no difference to me how many owners as previously stated. Anything can be changed, duped, forged, restamped, copied, etc. Doesn't matter. It's the current condition of the car vs. the price.
ps: I'd love to have your car!
[Modified by 78Vette-SA, 8:09 PM 8/7/2003]
ps: I'd love to have your car!
[Modified by 78Vette-SA, 8:09 PM 8/7/2003]
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Re: What would you say to this issue? (SouthernC3)
I agree with the general thoughts of the group on this one. I am the third owner of my 80, and the first owner took good care of it, however he was a large, large man and while the car looked good, the rag joint, body mounts, seat backs, seat cushions, and floor were pounded, pulverized and broke.
The second owner attempted to make it into a road racer and tore the car up modifying it, then let it sit outside a few years for good measure. By the time I got it it was essentially a wreck. So I agree that overall condition is the overwhelming factor.
The second owner attempted to make it into a road racer and tore the car up modifying it, then let it sit outside a few years for good measure. By the time I got it it was essentially a wreck. So I agree that overall condition is the overwhelming factor.