J55 (13" Front rotors), standard on 95 coupes or option?
09-13-2006, 01:49 PM
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J55 rotors, standard on 95 coupes or option? just installed correct one withy pics
just as title states. i'm having issues with seller, trying to get them to pay shipping cause they stated a 95 had either optional 13" front rotors. i got 12" cause i dont have the up[graded suspension. when i tried to put on i saw the stocks were 13". also verified with RPO (shouldve done this in the begining.) but now my problem is i have to prove it, or else i'm stuck paying shipping 3 times!
i need proof, that i can show them. i have people tell me its so, but that doesnt fly with them.
thanks.
i need proof, that i can show them. i have people tell me its so, but that doesnt fly with them.
thanks.
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09-13-2006, 01:52 PM
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J55 became the standerd brakes in 1995. Your option code list (found under the cover of the rear passenger's compartment) will list it. Also, the Corvette Black Book states:
"The larger brake package included previously with Z07 and ZR-1 perfor,ance options was included for 1995 with all models."
BTW who are you dealing with? Sounds like they don't know what they're doing.
"The larger brake package included previously with Z07 and ZR-1 perfor,ance options was included for 1995 with all models."
BTW who are you dealing with? Sounds like they don't know what they're doing.
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09-13-2006, 02:13 PM
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I've read your other thread on this and it appears that the compny you're dealing with doesn't know these cars (I'm surprised Ecklers said the same thing). Showing them a copy of your option codes won't sovle the problem; they'll just say that you had the optional HD brake package and ordered the wrong rotors. I'd suggest you get hold of a 1995 sales brochure which should state that the J55 brakes were now standard. (Other than that maybe a signed affidavit from Gordon Killebrew or David Hill).
09-13-2006, 02:26 PM
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well i know for a fact that i dont have the heavy duty suspension. but i do know that i have 13" rotors due to measuring them and later checking RPO. the RPO's i found online just state the whole C4 line from 88-96. so by looking at that, it would look to be an option cause it doesnt refer to a 95 on its own. i'll be showing the seller this post. it is from Grip force cross drlled rotors. they state that they're supplier, "the largest" states that a 95 has optional 13" but comes with 12". they obviously know nothing about corvettes. i'll search for the 95 brochure.
anyone has one?
anyone has one?
09-13-2006, 04:00 PM
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Not sure if this will help or not, but here are a couple sites I found some specs at. 
http://100megsfree4.com/corvette/1990/vet95.htm
http://www.geocities.com/MotorCity/4310/vetfacts.htm
http://100megsfree4.com/corvette/1990/vet95.htm
http://www.geocities.com/MotorCity/4310/vetfacts.htm
09-13-2006, 04:12 PM
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Originally Posted by dnut24
well i know for a fact that i dont have the heavy duty suspension. but i do know that i have 13" rotors due to measuring them and later checking RPO. the RPO's i found online just state the whole C4 line from 88-96. so by looking at that, it would look to be an option cause it doesnt refer to a 95 on its own. i'll be showing the seller this post. it is from Grip force cross drlled rotors. they state that they're supplier, "the largest" states that a 95 has optional 13" but comes with 12". they obviously know nothing about corvettes. i'll search for the 95 brochure.
anyone has one?
anyone has one?
As stated in the attachments to various posts, the HD brakes BECAME STANDARD ON ALL CORVETTES AS OF 1995. Whoever you're dealing with, does not understand that. It's up to you to show them.
And just because there's some list that shows J55 as an option from '88 DOES not mean it was optional in '95. It wasn't.
Now, to be fair, there are frequently "packages" called heavy duty, either suspension or just by itself for Many Cars, that DO include different brakes. This is not one of them. When you got "heavy duty suspension" on a C4, to my knowledge, it did NOT include J55 brakes. If I'm wrong, someone will def correct me.
So, look up books, talk to your local Chev dealer, get something on a bill even handwritten, and send it off as proof. This isn't hard to prove. And you can handwrite on the Chev dealer's bill to you with the facts as they have written, other sources for whomever sold you the rotors.
09-13-2006, 04:18 PM
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We all know the J55 on 95's was standard, not an option. Every 1995 Corvette has the 13" front rotors and twin piston calibers on the front.
Copy this thread to your supplier, but he really should already have known this if he is in the brake business.
Copy this thread to your supplier, but he really should already have known this if he is in the brake business.
09-13-2006, 04:26 PM
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Originally Posted by LT4CompYell
When you got "heavy duty suspension" on a C4, to my knowledge, it did NOT include J55 brakes. If I'm wrong, someone will def correct me.
The 13" HD brakes first became available on the `88 Z-51s.
So all `88-`90 Z-51s, `91-`95 Z-07s, and all ZR-1s have them.
For `95 & `96 the 13" HD brakes replaced the 12" as standard equipment.
(This is for front brakes only)
RPO-J55 will be listed on the RPO sticker for ALL `95s.
To the OP, did you just buy a `95 with the wrong size front brakes, or are you ordering new brakes and just getting the wrong size?
09-13-2006, 04:41 PM
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Originally Posted by Z-07 freak
That is correct for the `84-`87 Z-51s.
The 13" HD brakes first became available on the `88 Z-51s.
So all `88-`90 Z-51s, `91-`95 Z-07s, and all ZR-1s have them.
For `95 & `96 the 13" HD brakes replaced the 12" as standard equipment.
(This is for front brakes only)
RPO-J55 will be listed on the RPO sticker for ALL `95s.
To the OP, did you just buy a `95 with the wrong size front brakes, or are you ordering new brakes and just getting the wrong size?
The 13" HD brakes first became available on the `88 Z-51s.
So all `88-`90 Z-51s, `91-`95 Z-07s, and all ZR-1s have them.
For `95 & `96 the 13" HD brakes replaced the 12" as standard equipment.
(This is for front brakes only)
RPO-J55 will be listed on the RPO sticker for ALL `95s.
To the OP, did you just buy a `95 with the wrong size front brakes, or are you ordering new brakes and just getting the wrong size?
to answer your question i bought the 12" brakes cause i knew i didnt have the "heavy duty" suspension. the auction states 95 without heavy duty, so thats what i bought. when i went to replace i saw the rotors were bigger. to add to this the rotors sent out were visibly scratched on the zinc plating, which had already ticked me off before knowing it was wrong size cause the seller knowingly packaged those up and sent them. when asked about it he argued it was just a surface scratch that will fade. i beg to differ since there is an actual hole you can feel in the surface of the rotor.
would you mount these?
so to me it was an easy fix, bad rotor had to send back anyways. order wrong rotor cause site was incorrect. i will pay difference for 13" rotor and send em the good ones. but he is wanting me to pick up all the shipping. and that to me is
09-13-2006, 05:27 PM
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No, I would not mount them. Because the J55 13" brakes also have a wider caliper. The 13" are 1.1" wide, while the 12" are 0.8", from the factory. But there maybe aftermarket 12"x1.1" out there.
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Originally Posted by Z-07 freak
That is correct for the `84-`87 Z-51s.
The 13" HD brakes first became available on the `88 Z-51s.
So all `88-`90 Z-51s, `91-`95 Z-07s, and all ZR-1s have them.
For `95 & `96 the 13" HD brakes replaced the 12" as standard equipment.
(This is for front brakes only)
RPO-J55 will be listed on the RPO sticker for ALL `95s.
To the OP, did you just buy a `95 with the wrong size front brakes, or are you ordering new brakes and just getting the wrong size?
The 13" HD brakes first became available on the `88 Z-51s.
So all `88-`90 Z-51s, `91-`95 Z-07s, and all ZR-1s have them.
For `95 & `96 the 13" HD brakes replaced the 12" as standard equipment.
(This is for front brakes only)
RPO-J55 will be listed on the RPO sticker for ALL `95s.
To the OP, did you just buy a `95 with the wrong size front brakes, or are you ordering new brakes and just getting the wrong size?
09-13-2006, 07:22 PM
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Originally Posted by jrzvette
J55 became the standerd brakes in 1995. Your option code list (found under the cover of the rear passenger's compartment) will list it. Also, the Corvette Black Book states:
"The larger brake package included previously with Z07 and ZR-1 perfor,ance options was included for 1995 with all models."
BTW who are you dealing with? Sounds like they don't know what they're doing.
"The larger brake package included previously with Z07 and ZR-1 perfor,ance options was included for 1995 with all models."
BTW who are you dealing with? Sounds like they don't know what they're doing.
09-14-2006, 11:16 AM
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Originally Posted by Z-07 freak
No, I would not mount them. Because the J55 13" brakes also have a wider caliper. The 13" are 1.1" wide, while the 12" are 0.8", from the factory. But there maybe aftermarket 12"x1.1" out there.
point being that since it had to be returned anyways due to them sending out a known bad rotor, whats the difference if i ordered the wrong rotor cause of their incorrect auction listing.
09-14-2006, 11:17 AM
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Originally Posted by gslotman
I concur - here with jrzvette - I have a 95 and the FACTORY brochure I have so states the J55 (13 inch) was standard.......
09-14-2006, 12:30 PM
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You know what?
Tell the seller you are not satisfied with the product, that you are sending the rotors back, and that you want a full refund (you may have to eat the return shipping). End of story. Go to Stoptech or any of a dozen other good vendors on the CF, and get the right parts.
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Tell the seller you are not satisfied with the product, that you are sending the rotors back, and that you want a full refund (you may have to eat the return shipping). End of story. Go to Stoptech or any of a dozen other good vendors on the CF, and get the right parts.
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09-14-2006, 01:39 PM
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Originally Posted by rocco16
You know what?
Tell the seller you are not satisfied with the product, that you are sending the rotors back, and that you want a full refund (you may have to eat the return shipping). End of story. Go to Stoptech or any of a dozen other good vendors on the CF, and get the right parts.
Larry
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Tell the seller you are not satisfied with the product, that you are sending the rotors back, and that you want a full refund (you may have to eat the return shipping). End of story. Go to Stoptech or any of a dozen other good vendors on the CF, and get the right parts.
Larry
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09-14-2006, 01:59 PM
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I would, except that i mounted the rear already. i mean its weird to me, its an honest mistake on their part and i'm not even mad about that. sux that their distributor sux and dont know vettes, but thats not my fault. basically just send me the right ones, i'll pay difference but it was the sellers mistake so they should pick up shipping charges right? if it were my mistake, i'd have to pay for it. i sent the seller this email and will act on Paypal if not satisfied. am i wrong about this or not? just wanted an outside opinion since i'm obviously pissed about the whole situation.
Shawn,
I wanted to advise you that I sent back the rotors today UPS tracking 1Z220X070369112701. Through all the research I have done it is clear that your auction is wrong. I have also put some thought into how I have been treated through this purchase. From the beginning of sending me a known damaged rotor, as you admit you examined it yourself and decided to send it anyways. Along with the incorrect auction listing that I purchased from. The auction that clearly states 1995 corvette 12” front rotors as we all know from proof that there is no such thing in existence and the way you argued with me over the phone about it was uncalled for. for even further proof you can yourself look at the way the front rotors are listed on Ecklers website, one of the biggest Corvette reatailers, I think they know a bit more about these cars then your brake distributors.
http://www.ecklers.com/product.asp?p...dept%5Fid=1089
You will see how it stops at 94, not listing 95. Why? because 95's came with 13" rotors.
I am very unsatisfied with the level of customer service. To be honest with you if I had not already mounted the rear rotors I would be sending it all back and require a full refund. At this point I will NOT be held responsible for the shipping charges due to your errors. I will of coarse gladly pay the $18 difference for the correct rotors as this is only fair. I will need a refund of the shipping charges for me sending you back the rotors which is $33.73. I can provide receipt for proof. I really regret for it to come to this, but you have all along pushed blame on the customer wrongfully. I will also be placing a dispute via Paypal for the auction is these terms are not met and have my money refunded.
Thanks,
I wanted to advise you that I sent back the rotors today UPS tracking 1Z220X070369112701. Through all the research I have done it is clear that your auction is wrong. I have also put some thought into how I have been treated through this purchase. From the beginning of sending me a known damaged rotor, as you admit you examined it yourself and decided to send it anyways. Along with the incorrect auction listing that I purchased from. The auction that clearly states 1995 corvette 12” front rotors as we all know from proof that there is no such thing in existence and the way you argued with me over the phone about it was uncalled for. for even further proof you can yourself look at the way the front rotors are listed on Ecklers website, one of the biggest Corvette reatailers, I think they know a bit more about these cars then your brake distributors.
http://www.ecklers.com/product.asp?p...dept%5Fid=1089
You will see how it stops at 94, not listing 95. Why? because 95's came with 13" rotors.
I am very unsatisfied with the level of customer service. To be honest with you if I had not already mounted the rear rotors I would be sending it all back and require a full refund. At this point I will NOT be held responsible for the shipping charges due to your errors. I will of coarse gladly pay the $18 difference for the correct rotors as this is only fair. I will need a refund of the shipping charges for me sending you back the rotors which is $33.73. I can provide receipt for proof. I really regret for it to come to this, but you have all along pushed blame on the customer wrongfully. I will also be placing a dispute via Paypal for the auction is these terms are not met and have my money refunded.
Thanks,
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seller insists that there is a J51 12" rotor for 95 vette. is there such a thing? i've never heard or seen such an option.
seller is agreeing to send me correct rotors with no shipping, but i still pay for the shipping i already have sent off.
seller is agreeing to send me correct rotors with no shipping, but i still pay for the shipping i already have sent off.