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Old 06-19-2007, 09:32 AM
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Default Mythbusters: do you have to remove the top before jacking?

When I was buying my car, my mechanic wanted to jack up the vette and check things out. The owner insisted that the targa top be removed first, because he claimed the body could flex and the top could break. My mechanic said that was unlikely but certainly said do what you feel is best. Afterward we chatted and he wasn't really sure how much of a risk it really is.

So what is the truth? The guy claimed you should never jack the car until the top is removed or at least the unscrewed, or damage could occur. Myth or no?
Old 06-19-2007, 09:39 AM
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Myth. It doesn't say anything in the owners manual about removing the top before jacking the car up.
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Originally Posted by Ericsvette
Myth. It doesn't say anything in the owners manual about removing the top before jacking the car up.
Yeah, I didn't think so. He claimed some corvette shop told him that, and they also told him always close the doors with the windows down
Old 06-19-2007, 09:46 AM
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Originally Posted by Ericsvette
Myth. It doesn't say anything in the owners manual about removing the top before jacking the car up.
Someone on this forum was doing some work on their car and posted pics of their car with the top out and windows down while the doors were open and the car was on a jack. There was a long debate about this and IIRC the determination was made that its all myth.
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Not sure about C4's, but I can tell you that the body does flex quite a bit on C3's. I know this from experience! I think that the C4's frames are more rigid.

C3's, the door seams will actually close or expand based on where the jack is placed.
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There was a recent thread on the same thing:

http://forums.corvetteforum.com/show....php?t=1723561
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You have to remove the top when jacking it up and you have to open the doors and hatch also. If not, they'll shatter. It happened to my neighbor's Vette. Zak.
Old 06-19-2007, 09:52 AM
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Myth I have jacked em up with floor jacks, by one corner, half the car, the whole car, the front, the back, with a lift, with all the hood open/closed, top on/off, doors open/closed etc, never any problem period.
Old 06-19-2007, 10:00 AM
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myth. I have had my vette for 21 years and have jacked it up quite a few times, never with the top off. I mean think about it, the body flexes constantly while driving on uneven roads with dips and harsh bumps. Do you always drive with your windows down and top off? I thought the top was specifically designed to help the body flex less while it is in place which is why there are 4 bolts and not some cheesy little clips. If it makes you feel better, take the top off, but I don't think it is a necessity.
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Originally Posted by Ericsvette
Myth. It doesn't say anything in the owners manual about removing the top before jacking the car up.
Totally. Have you seen how much teh car flexes WITHOUT the targa top on???????
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To be clear, I am not talking about using lifts at all (seemed to be what the other thread was about) - this is about jacking one corner up only. Zak seems to be one person calling this myth not only plausable but having secondhand knowledge of the fact...

You have to remove the top when jacking it up and you have to open the doors and hatch also. If not, they'll shatter. It happened to my neighbor's Vette. Zak.
Old 06-19-2007, 10:34 AM
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Jacked my '88 Z52 Coupe up dozens of times with a floor jack from any of the 4 jacking points and never had a problem or heard or seen anything alarming with the top off or the doors open or closed.

If it were true then it would most certainly be in the owner's and shop manuals. The GM lawyers would have seen to that.

If it makes you feel better to remove the targa, then by all means do it.

One thing that isn't a myth is that if you close the clamshell like most of us do by dropping it the last 10 inches with the doors open, that the trailing edge of the clamshell can chip the paint (or worse) on the leading edge of the doors.
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...... If that were true anytime you pulled into a driveway at an angle with an incline the top would break.
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From my understanding if its a glass top, then you do have a risk of braking the top......
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I thought you meant on a lift at a shop.
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I've jacked up my 90 every way you can think of, one corner at a time, both front wheels, both rears, both wheels on one side or the other, and I've never taken the roof off or opened the doors/windows, and I've never damaged the car at all.
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The targa top is definately a reinforcement, no question. As far as your question I think

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I know GM can do some really stupid things with designs (think Optispark) but I can't imagine even they would design a car where you have to remove the roof panel in order to jack it up. What would happen if you needed to change a flat tire during a rainstorm?
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Well, for me it wasn't a myth. I noticed it after I finished doing my head gasket. I have jacked the car up and down several times during the process and it cracked my glass targa top...really pisses me off...damn thing is expensive and you would ya would think just jacking it up wouldn't do that, but I can tell you that it wasn't cracked before I started my project.
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Originally Posted by jrzvette
What would happen if you needed to change a flat tire during a rainstorm?
This would never happen because you are not suppose to be driving in the rain.


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