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Old 04-06-2010, 11:39 PM
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the catacylic converter's just went out on my 94 . and was considering bypassing them . what will happen ? mess with the o 2 sensors? and how much louder will it get ? can anyone who did this let me know the results ? thanks
Old 04-06-2010, 11:50 PM
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I had a friend take a bad cat off (not a Vette though) and knock the ceramic guts out of it with a piece of rebar. Then, it was just an empty fat place in the exhaust pipe. Didn't notice the sound changing all that much and the car didn't run any better than before the cat failed. No inspection sniff test so it passed visual. Not a recommended fix.
Old 04-07-2010, 12:17 AM
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What were your syptoms? I've got a 94 LT1 with 114 K miles on it and it has the orginal cats. I've been thinking about replacing or eleminating them.

I don't want to get on a road trip and have problems 1000 miles from home.
Old 04-07-2010, 01:12 AM
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I went straight pipes and love them. You will like eliminating them.
Old 04-07-2010, 07:57 AM
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I have empty cats on my Vette. Car runs fine.

I changed out to get a little more power on the drag strip. At the same time I put on some Magnaflow mufflers. So I can't tell you if removing the cats make the car louder on not. But the car will not pass emissions inspection now.
Old 04-07-2010, 08:28 AM
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Default No biggie either way...

Cats get their share of print on the ZR-1 boards too. Marc Haibeck is one of the professional gurus of that machine, and according to dyno testing w/ and w/o the (new performance) cats, the difference was about 5 hp on the 500 hp LT5s...no real hit to performance except to bragging rights, apparently.

Looking for a bit more "snap", I've gone to the Fidanza FW and will be installing a gear in the rear; the effect of reinstalling cats (if I choose to) will be lost in the real torque increases afforded by those changes. I'm currently not running cats, but I don't get too excited either way, far as performance goes.

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Old 04-07-2010, 08:36 AM
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I read in an import tuner magazine (dentists office?) that straight pipes gave you a tiny bit more top end power, almost in-perceivable; where bashing out the innards of a CAT you can actually lose a small amount due to the turbulence created in the gas flow. Either way, nothing in the seat of the pants feel.

In RI straight pipes wouldn't pass emissions on a pre-obdII post antique car...
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Originally Posted by Paul Workman
Cats get their share of print on the ZR-1 boards too. Marc Haibeck is one of the professional gurus of that machine, and according to dyno testing w/ and w/o the (new performance) cats, the difference was about 5 hp on the 500 hp LT5s...no real hit to performance except to bragging rights, apparently.

Looking for a bit more "snap", I've gone to the Fidanza FW and will be installing a gear in the rear; the effect of reinstalling cats (if I choose to) will be lost in the real torque increases afforded by those changes. I'm currently not running cats, but I don't get too excited either way, far as performance goes.

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I had my car dyno'ed before and after cat delete and muffler install. I picked up 13HP and dropped 3 tenths at the drag strip. firstvetteRI is right though, nothing was gained in 'seat of the pants' feel.
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Originally Posted by Doug 87L98
I had my car dyno'ed before and after cat delete and muffler install. I picked up 13HP and dropped 3 tenths at the drag strip. firstvetteRI is right though, nothing was gained in 'seat of the pants' feel.
Hey keep in mind I read it in import tuner magazine....going from 140HP to 143HP...yeee haaa
Old 04-07-2010, 11:47 AM
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Originally Posted by firstvetteRI
Hey keep in mind I read it in import tuner magazine....going from 140HP to 143HP...yeee haaa
WOW what mag. was that?! Maybe I can get my car in it!!!!!

I really did not get any 'seat of the pants' increase at all. But it was sure nice to get into the 13s at the strip though.

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Originally Posted by Klondike
I had a friend take a bad cat off and knock the ceramic guts out of it with a piece of rebar. [/U]
I don't think Sweetsie's gonna like this
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There is nothing wrong with getting rid of a dead cat

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