Impressions on these C4 listings?
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Impressions on these C4 listings?
Hey guys, I'm back on the hunt for my first C4 after having to call it off for a while, but I figured I'd get your thoughts on a couple listings I have inquired about.
Both sellers have gotten back to me promptly and are willing to work with non-locals (they are located about 3 and 4-5 hours drive away from me, respectively, so I'm asking tons of questions first and I can get back to you guys with my impressions of those answers).
http://inlandempire.craigslist.org/cto/4758745879.html
http://losangeles.craigslist.org/wst...788864936.html
Seem like good deals to me, and I like the color combos of both (as an aside, I like both the old and newer styles, but I'm always reminded of the 'get the newest/best condition you can afford' advice). Haven't found deals quite like these here in my local market (Vegas) but I'm willing to take my time. I have a soft spot for the late 80s models, but the '93 seems cleaner/more sorted to my eye (and like I said, I like both styles - plus the LT1 is simply stronger). I inquired about the seats on the '89 since that may be a future job/expense if I got that car, waiting for a response.
Any and all input and advice is welcomed.
Both sellers have gotten back to me promptly and are willing to work with non-locals (they are located about 3 and 4-5 hours drive away from me, respectively, so I'm asking tons of questions first and I can get back to you guys with my impressions of those answers).
http://inlandempire.craigslist.org/cto/4758745879.html
http://losangeles.craigslist.org/wst...788864936.html
Seem like good deals to me, and I like the color combos of both (as an aside, I like both the old and newer styles, but I'm always reminded of the 'get the newest/best condition you can afford' advice). Haven't found deals quite like these here in my local market (Vegas) but I'm willing to take my time. I have a soft spot for the late 80s models, but the '93 seems cleaner/more sorted to my eye (and like I said, I like both styles - plus the LT1 is simply stronger). I inquired about the seats on the '89 since that may be a future job/expense if I got that car, waiting for a response.
Any and all input and advice is welcomed.
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Yeah, I'm aware of that issue. Granted, this car is in SoCal and I live in the desert, so moisture is a lot less likely to become an issue in the southwest. Isn't it moisture that's the main problem with the early Opti's?
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On the 93 the ad mentions the fact that the optispark, plugs and wires have been changed, so that should not be an issue to make or break a potential deal.
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x2 on the LT1 looking a little cleaner/well maintained. Nice color combo. For 1000 more youre getting a lot more car
(oh and one of the wheels is on backwards couldnt help myself)
think that 89 has been up for sale for awhile could be mistaken
There are some good deals on these in LA if youre patient.
(oh and one of the wheels is on backwards couldnt help myself)
think that 89 has been up for sale for awhile could be mistaken
There are some good deals on these in LA if youre patient.
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Thanks guys. I'm waiting on more info on the '93, but I do think that is the more sorted car. I love the aqua and white/black combo, too.
For what its worth the seller of the '89 seems like a straight shooter. Family car (his father in law is the original owner) but it comes with its flaws. Some tears on the leather, weatherstripping never been replaced (no known leaks, but its old rubber), tires are about 60% tread but are getting dry/cracked, and the headlamps "usually" work but he said occasionally they'll get stuck down, so that'll need sorting too. Only way I get that car is if I drive the price down and do the work myself (other than the tires, which I'd have done professionally), but he did send a very thorough reply email with all the pictures I requested and answered every question, flaws included.
Agreed. And I totally didn't notice the backwards wheel but you're right. I'd have to sort that myself. Probably had a rotation and the dudes didn't know they're unidirectional.
Yeah, I've noticed better selection and deals in SoCal than up here in Vegas. A few guys I met at Cars and Coffee got their Vette's in SoCal, so that seems to be a common theme around here. And I may move back to CA someday, so it would be nice to have a CA-smogged car. Less hassle later on, even if these cars can be exempted here.
For what its worth the seller of the '89 seems like a straight shooter. Family car (his father in law is the original owner) but it comes with its flaws. Some tears on the leather, weatherstripping never been replaced (no known leaks, but its old rubber), tires are about 60% tread but are getting dry/cracked, and the headlamps "usually" work but he said occasionally they'll get stuck down, so that'll need sorting too. Only way I get that car is if I drive the price down and do the work myself (other than the tires, which I'd have done professionally), but he did send a very thorough reply email with all the pictures I requested and answered every question, flaws included.
x2 on the LT1 looking a little cleaner/well maintained. Nice color combo. For 1000 more youre getting a lot more car
(oh and one of the wheels is on backwards couldnt help myself)
think that 89 has been up for sale for awhile could be mistaken
There are some good deals on these in LA if youre patient.
(oh and one of the wheels is on backwards couldnt help myself)
think that 89 has been up for sale for awhile could be mistaken
There are some good deals on these in LA if youre patient.
Yeah, I've noticed better selection and deals in SoCal than up here in Vegas. A few guys I met at Cars and Coffee got their Vette's in SoCal, so that seems to be a common theme around here. And I may move back to CA someday, so it would be nice to have a CA-smogged car. Less hassle later on, even if these cars can be exempted here.
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Grass is always greener, lol. LA is expensive and crime ridden sure you want to move back out here?
Sounds like the opti has been replaced which is good.
89 sounds like its been sitting and deteriorating potential money pit. If the head gaskets havent been replaced they are going to need it. btdt.
Sounds like the opti has been replaced which is good.
89 sounds like its been sitting and deteriorating potential money pit. If the head gaskets havent been replaced they are going to need it. btdt.
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The 93 hands down. Maybe you could find a "better" deal, but in my experience looking for Corvettes, you need to get what you can afford and be happy with. All of our opinions are just that, opinions. Your money, your purchase. Get what you'll be happy with. All that aside, the interior of the 93 makes it worth the asking price by itself, in my opinion. That's just a beautiful combo. Whichever you get, as they say, it'll be miles of smiles!!! I've had my 95 vert for 4 years now, and I promise, it makes me smile everytime I drive it.
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The Bright Aqua Metallic - very nice condition.
However keep an eye on that 'aftermarket alarm'.... when you may need to troubleshoot the electronic starting gremlins later.
However keep an eye on that 'aftermarket alarm'.... when you may need to troubleshoot the electronic starting gremlins later.
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So far the '93 owner hasn't been very on top of contact, so we'll see where that goes. But I agree, the '89 has too much wrong (even though I have a soft spot for '89s, I can find and afford a cleaner car). I'm definitely going to practice patience and be as thorough as possible.
Haha, I'm from NorCal so I'm not moving to LA if I move back to CA. And yeah, the '89 used to be taken care of - key: used to be. It's been sitting for most of the last 5 years on rotting tires.
Grass is always greener, lol. LA is expensive and crime ridden sure you want to move back out here?
Sounds like the opti has been replaced which is good.
89 sounds like its been sitting and deteriorating potential money pit. If the head gaskets havent been replaced they are going to need it. btdt.
Sounds like the opti has been replaced which is good.
89 sounds like its been sitting and deteriorating potential money pit. If the head gaskets havent been replaced they are going to need it. btdt.
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Ok, so the aqua '93 owner got back to me (he's on vacation right now). Sounds like this car is indeed much cleaner than the '89, with a few hiccups. Here's the response to my questions:
Jeff,
See my answers below...
- Electrics: passenger window control switch only goes down, not up. However, switch on driver side door that controls the passenger window works fine. All else works perfectly, all the time. Seats are manual.
- we have service records. We've only had the car for 2 years. I've done some of the work myself such as replacing opti-spark, water pump, spark plugs & wires, oil changes.
- VIN: I'll have to get this to you next week. We are on vacation right now.
- car runs great, shifts well, maintains good water temp, etc.
- weather stripping is ok. Rear hatch rubber I've replaced twice with new, and it comes apart at the seem each time. Since it doesn't leak, I gave up on it. Other rubber around door and top is soft and not cracked.
- driven regularly during the first year we had it, less so now since we moved to L.A. In June. Been garaged until we moved here also. Now sits outside with car cover.
- I can provide pics when I return home of engine. Oil leaks are very minor. Nothing that reaches the ground, but evidence on frame and lower engine of leak.
- completely stock
- I've had the engine mgmt computer rebuilt recently. It's still under warranty, if there are are any future issues. Turns out you can't really get these new or aftermarket any more, so you have to have them rebuilt by someplace back east.
We bought the tires new 2 years ago and have put 20,000 miles on them. They still look to have plenty of tread and are in good shape. I'll get you a pic after we are home.
Hope that helps. Let me know if you have any more questions and if you are still interested.
Thanks,
Tony
The issues all sound like things I can manage myself - the one that stands out is the minor oil leaking. Obviously would much prefer get a car that isn't leaking, but my DD for example has been dribbling out of the valve cover for a long while without any notable issues (I'm replacing the gaskets soon and have the parts). But not all leaks are created equal, so if you guys have thoughts on that, fire away. Any clues as to common leaks that start out with such symptoms?
I'm definitely going to follow up on this one, but obviously have some time to think since he's on vacation anyway. I'm pleased it doesn't have old tires like the '89 does. That's good.
Anything else you guys think I should inquire about or look out for? Other than pointing out the backwards rear wheels. Worst comes to worst I would just jack up the rear of the car and swap them if I ended up buying.
Jeff,
See my answers below...
- Electrics: passenger window control switch only goes down, not up. However, switch on driver side door that controls the passenger window works fine. All else works perfectly, all the time. Seats are manual.
- we have service records. We've only had the car for 2 years. I've done some of the work myself such as replacing opti-spark, water pump, spark plugs & wires, oil changes.
- VIN: I'll have to get this to you next week. We are on vacation right now.
- car runs great, shifts well, maintains good water temp, etc.
- weather stripping is ok. Rear hatch rubber I've replaced twice with new, and it comes apart at the seem each time. Since it doesn't leak, I gave up on it. Other rubber around door and top is soft and not cracked.
- driven regularly during the first year we had it, less so now since we moved to L.A. In June. Been garaged until we moved here also. Now sits outside with car cover.
- I can provide pics when I return home of engine. Oil leaks are very minor. Nothing that reaches the ground, but evidence on frame and lower engine of leak.
- completely stock
- I've had the engine mgmt computer rebuilt recently. It's still under warranty, if there are are any future issues. Turns out you can't really get these new or aftermarket any more, so you have to have them rebuilt by someplace back east.
We bought the tires new 2 years ago and have put 20,000 miles on them. They still look to have plenty of tread and are in good shape. I'll get you a pic after we are home.
Hope that helps. Let me know if you have any more questions and if you are still interested.
Thanks,
Tony
The issues all sound like things I can manage myself - the one that stands out is the minor oil leaking. Obviously would much prefer get a car that isn't leaking, but my DD for example has been dribbling out of the valve cover for a long while without any notable issues (I'm replacing the gaskets soon and have the parts). But not all leaks are created equal, so if you guys have thoughts on that, fire away. Any clues as to common leaks that start out with such symptoms?
I'm definitely going to follow up on this one, but obviously have some time to think since he's on vacation anyway. I'm pleased it doesn't have old tires like the '89 does. That's good.
Anything else you guys think I should inquire about or look out for? Other than pointing out the backwards rear wheels. Worst comes to worst I would just jack up the rear of the car and swap them if I ended up buying.
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The '93 appears to be a better car all around and on top of that it's a great color combination.
Good luck in your search!
Good luck in your search!