leather seat covers
02-09-2016, 07:03 AM
#221
Race Director
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02-09-2016, 08:27 AM
#222
Instructor
02-09-2016, 08:49 AM
#223
Pro
02-09-2016, 09:06 AM
#224
Instructor
I would not schedule any work on the car based on the eta or take the seats out in-advance. I am still pumped to receive mine, but delayed from original date. For two bills, I just hope the overall quality is there as we are certainly not paying for customer service. That and the deal with my wife is I need to finish painting the interior of our house before I start on the seats. Anyone in northern Colorado good with a roller
02-09-2016, 11:26 AM
#225
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02-09-2016, 11:39 AM
#226
Pro
I guess I may have spoken a little too soon. I just emailed the supplier and received a prompt response confirming FedEx tracking and the shipment is on the truck out for delivery today !!
02-09-2016, 12:06 PM
#227
Pro
, seems as any support will be a short reply away 
02-09-2016, 02:51 PM
#228
Race Director
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Better get painting. Lol
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02-12-2016, 12:32 AM
#229
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FWIW I installed new leather seat upholstery on my 1988 Lincoln about 4-5 years ago. I went w/ perforated, duplicate of OE. I later decided I prefarated the non perf, because I believe it will crack sooner than non-perf.
We also installed duplicated seat leather on both of our 1996 Impala SS's. Went w/ non perf.
All 3 cars look and smell like NEW!
02-12-2016, 11:58 AM
#230
Burning Brakes
This guy sell in places other than eBay? I don't do eBay any more.
02-12-2016, 12:18 PM
#231
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02-12-2016, 12:45 PM
#232
Team Owner
I found an upholsterer through a buddy of mine who owns a 95 Z28. His seats looked great, so I got the info to his guy. The upholsterer told me he would charge me $200 for both seats completed. If they needed anything extra, it would be on him. Well he did need to do more work than anticipated.
He had the same issue I did. The material where the hog rings go was ripping. He called and explained everything to me. He also showed me the issue.
Well, the material that was sewed on the covers is called Cambridge. It's a very weak material that is made for furniture. It normally goes on the bottom of couches and recliners. It's weak and it tears. My guy ended up taking that crap out and sewing in new material called decking. This material is used to cover spring boxes for beds. It's super strong and you can't tear it.
So my guy ended up taking the covers apart and sewing the correct material to the new covers. If you look at the original seats in your C4s, it's actually leather where the hog rings go. But this is where our friend who sells the covers cheaped out on.
So, in the end the covers are well worth the $249. My guy said that's a hell of a deal. Here is a pic of the final product.
He had the same issue I did. The material where the hog rings go was ripping. He called and explained everything to me. He also showed me the issue.
Well, the material that was sewed on the covers is called Cambridge. It's a very weak material that is made for furniture. It normally goes on the bottom of couches and recliners. It's weak and it tears. My guy ended up taking that crap out and sewing in new material called decking. This material is used to cover spring boxes for beds. It's super strong and you can't tear it.
So my guy ended up taking the covers apart and sewing the correct material to the new covers. If you look at the original seats in your C4s, it's actually leather where the hog rings go. But this is where our friend who sells the covers cheaped out on.
So, in the end the covers are well worth the $249. My guy said that's a hell of a deal. Here is a pic of the final product.
Here is my math. Regardless of which route I go, I am getting new seat cushions. So unless I try salvage the old stuff and put the new covers on (not that crazy yet), I am looking at $310 for the foam and $750 bringing it to a total of $1060 but I can get the whole thing mounted for $1080 and when they offer 20% off, I will get it for $864. So, if I get this $200 deal, plus the covers will net $510. Say I pay $200 to do it AS IS, it is about $710 which is about $154 less than if I used his covers. I don't consider that a "hell of a deal". Next thing, if the guy has to redo the material from Cambridge to Decking, what will that cost me?
Anyone know what backing material that comes with Wilcox or other vendors?
Last edited by aklim; 02-12-2016 at 12:52 PM.
02-12-2016, 01:16 PM
#233
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His seats are ready to put in yours are not. Have not seen the wilcox but imagine you still need to put in your seatback rods and mount over the frames.
On mine I did them myself so cost me $249.00 & $20.00 for the hogring tool and rings so $269.00 total hell of a deal. If you need foam $300.00 more.
I had no problem doing it myself but did two years in the cushion room at G.M.
Just another way of going and wanted to share.
Either way if you pay someone to mount them it will cost.
Now they are getting the seat covers for under $200.00 evan better deal!!!!!!!!!
I had no problem with the material just don't start or rip from the edge. If I did it again I would put some glue on the edge to help.
On mine I did them myself so cost me $249.00 & $20.00 for the hogring tool and rings so $269.00 total hell of a deal. If you need foam $300.00 more.
I had no problem doing it myself but did two years in the cushion room at G.M.
Just another way of going and wanted to share.
Either way if you pay someone to mount them it will cost.
Now they are getting the seat covers for under $200.00 evan better deal!!!!!!!!!
I had no problem with the material just don't start or rip from the edge. If I did it again I would put some glue on the edge to help.
Last edited by antfarmer2; 02-12-2016 at 01:33 PM.
02-12-2016, 03:09 PM
#234
Team Owner
His seats are ready to put in yours are not. Have not seen the wilcox but imagine you still need to put in your seatback rods and mount over the frames.
On mine I did them myself so cost me $249.00 & $20.00 for the hogring tool and rings so $269.00 total hell of a deal. If you need foam $300.00 more.
I had no problem doing it myself but did two years in the cushion room at G.M.
Just another way of going and wanted to share.
Either way if you pay someone to mount them it will cost.
Now they are getting the seat covers for under $200.00 evan better deal!!!!!!!!!
I had no problem with the material just don't start or rip from the edge. If I did it again I would put some glue on the edge to help.
On mine I did them myself so cost me $249.00 & $20.00 for the hogring tool and rings so $269.00 total hell of a deal. If you need foam $300.00 more.
I had no problem doing it myself but did two years in the cushion room at G.M.
Just another way of going and wanted to share.
Either way if you pay someone to mount them it will cost.
Now they are getting the seat covers for under $200.00 evan better deal!!!!!!!!!
I had no problem with the material just don't start or rip from the edge. If I did it again I would put some glue on the edge to help.
With ELVGTO mentioning the material difference, it does definitely make me wonder why he can do it for such a low price. I guess I will always be the one to look a gift horse in the mouth since I have been skewered by so many good deals that didn't turn out to be so good in the long run.
If we compare cover to cover, he is doing $200 when others are $750. Have YOU ever asked how he did it?
02-12-2016, 03:31 PM
#235
Race Director
Thread Starter
The materials don't cost that much. I know what he is talking about where it tore but that happend from his mistake. The material that was replaced cost less than a buck. They are very well made I agree they could have used differant where he had problems but I had none. The rest is mark up. My wife buys purses that cost much more than my first car. And I can not see why they cost that much more than any other but was not winning that one.
02-12-2016, 03:55 PM
#236
Pro
My question is concerning the material. If others are $750 and this one is $650, no worries but when others are $750 and this one is $200, I think it is a valid question how he sells it for less than a third of what others are doing. What is he leaving out? After all, if others want $3000 to do your roof and I agree to do it for under $1000, wouldn't you ask why I am so cheap?
With ELVGTO mentioning the material difference, it does definitely make me wonder why he can do it for such a low price. I guess I will always be the one to look a gift horse in the mouth since I have been skewered by so many good deals that didn't turn out to be so good in the long run.
If we compare cover to cover, he is doing $200 when others are $750. Have YOU ever asked how he did it?
With ELVGTO mentioning the material difference, it does definitely make me wonder why he can do it for such a low price. I guess I will always be the one to look a gift horse in the mouth since I have been skewered by so many good deals that didn't turn out to be so good in the long run.
If we compare cover to cover, he is doing $200 when others are $750. Have YOU ever asked how he did it?
How do YOU know the difference is the material ? Have you purchased both sets and compared or are you basing your opinion on one CF member post.
Maybe some things are better not known.... I'm guessing child labor
This supplier only ships out of TX, I believe that actual manufacturing is completed by an Asian gentlemen in AU.
For the $200 price point, I am very pleased with the quality and craftsmanship. Yes, I know that I am not paying for the highest quality materials or an OE replacement, but I CHOSE to go this route as a viable alternative at minimal cost expenditure for my desired results after carefully weighing the options.
I still see the VALUE. You don't, but why question someone else's decision to the point of being condescending.
02-12-2016, 05:18 PM
#237
Pro
I strongly considered buying from him. But his communication sucked. So I figured his customer service would also suck.
I agree though for $200 can't go to wrong, especially if nothing is wrong and don't need customer service. Funny I bid more than $200 a few times and he wouldn't budge.
I fit it in the same category as cheap Chinese **** that gets bashed a lot around here.
I agree though for $200 can't go to wrong, especially if nothing is wrong and don't need customer service. Funny I bid more than $200 a few times and he wouldn't budge.
I fit it in the same category as cheap Chinese **** that gets bashed a lot around here.
02-12-2016, 05:55 PM
#238
Instructor
They were pretty simple to install. Just tore in a few areas of the hog rings. He could have spent a little more for fabric but if you know what your doing it works fine.
02-12-2016, 06:29 PM
#239
Team Owner
The materials don't cost that much. I know what he is talking about where it tore but that happend from his mistake. The material that was replaced cost less than a buck. They are very well made I agree they could have used differant where he had problems but I had none. The rest is mark up. My wife buys purses that cost much more than my first car. And I can not see why they cost that much more than any other but was not winning that one.
02-12-2016, 06:36 PM
#240
Team Owner
How do YOU know the difference is the material ? Have you purchased both sets and compared or are you basing your opinion on one CF member post.
Maybe some things are better not known.... I'm guessing child labor
This supplier only ships out of TX, I believe that actual manufacturing is completed by an Asian gentlemen in AU.
For the $200 price point, I am very pleased with the quality and craftsmanship. Yes, I know that I am not paying for the highest quality materials or an OE replacement, but I CHOSE to go this route as a viable alternative at minimal cost expenditure for my desired results after carefully weighing the options.
I still see the VALUE. You don't, but why question someone else's decision to the point of being condescending.
Maybe some things are better not known.... I'm guessing child labor
This supplier only ships out of TX, I believe that actual manufacturing is completed by an Asian gentlemen in AU.
For the $200 price point, I am very pleased with the quality and craftsmanship. Yes, I know that I am not paying for the highest quality materials or an OE replacement, but I CHOSE to go this route as a viable alternative at minimal cost expenditure for my desired results after carefully weighing the options.
I still see the VALUE. You don't, but why question someone else's decision to the point of being condescending.
I prefer to know as much as I can. I can always discard information that I think is irrelevant. I cannot always get the information I want to have to make the decision.
No issue with that.
I question everything ESPECIALLY when the deal is way below average. At the price of LESS THAN A THIRD of what others are selling it for, only a fool doesn't ask why it is such a great deal. Does it mean you cannot take it? Absolutely not. However, if you are too stupid to ask the question of how he did it so cheaply, you deserve to get screwed over and over. THAT, IMO, is the order of things. Fools and their money should be parted.