C4 purchase questions - first time Vette purchase ?
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C4 purchase questions - first time Vette purchase ?
Hello , I am looking to buy my very first C4 Corvette. I am 50 years old and several years ago I had a mid 70's C3 for a short time . I am focused on the C4 ( non-convertible ) ( rather than a C5 ) because I just really like those better , and its just something that I always wanted back before having the "means" to do so . I am looking for any and all guidance and suggestions. Are the C4 's reliable? Which years and models are best to buy ? What are certain things that I should look for ? What are some common problem areas that I should be looking for? I have been focusing on the last 2 years of the C4 , 95 & 96 . I would like to purchase something that I could actually drive more than just on Sundays ( not an everyday driver - but something that I can put some miles on ) . I know this is a somewhat open-ended question . You may even be able to direct me to forum threads that already address this type of info . Thank You very much in advance for any help . ( St. Louis , MO )
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A couple of experts in the C4 field are Chris Petris and Gordon Killebrew. I have been to some of their classes and they both recommend the 95 and 96 as they have better weather stripping, are quieter due to having the rattle issues figured out (mostly) and had the vented Opti Spark ignition that are less likely to have moisture related issues.
I always advise to bring someone with you that has owned one of these models. Don't be afraid to fly and drive. You can easily find a knowledgeable Forum member in the car's area who can do a test drive and send you pictures.
The common wisdom is to buy the best, lowest mileage car you can afford. Although a higher mileage car that has been fanatic maintained is a good bet too.
Roger's Corvettes in Florida has some very nice examples but his prices are high. This is one of those times when you get what you pay for too.
Be sure to check for flood damage on any Corvette you look at along with getting a good CarFax.
Here is one of Roger's:
http://www.rogerscorvette.com/car1024.php?CarID=3231
I always advise to bring someone with you that has owned one of these models. Don't be afraid to fly and drive. You can easily find a knowledgeable Forum member in the car's area who can do a test drive and send you pictures.
The common wisdom is to buy the best, lowest mileage car you can afford. Although a higher mileage car that has been fanatic maintained is a good bet too.
Roger's Corvettes in Florida has some very nice examples but his prices are high. This is one of those times when you get what you pay for too.
Be sure to check for flood damage on any Corvette you look at along with getting a good CarFax.
Here is one of Roger's:
http://www.rogerscorvette.com/car1024.php?CarID=3231
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i'm 51, still looking, but mostly waiting on some budget things.
i would recommend looking at some in your area and driving them to see what they feel like for you.
i think they all drive a bit different, have different feels, etc.
of course condition, as someone said is important, i drove a '93 last year that honestly was in pristine condition at 65000 miles (it almost felt like a new car!), it had been well taken care of.
the other thing is set your budget and search.
for me i'm finding the prices are all over the place.
i think the thing to realize is that at it's newest, we're looking for a car that is 19 years or older. so it will need things at some point.
but as i've said on here, the later model C4s i've driven (93, 94, 96s) all felt like modern cars to me....and the 87 and 89s i've driven, just felt like "older cars" b/c of the interior (but that is not a bad thing). they were still very fun to drive.
i would certainly check through the posts on here, lots of good advice and information...
good luck
i would recommend looking at some in your area and driving them to see what they feel like for you.
i think they all drive a bit different, have different feels, etc.
of course condition, as someone said is important, i drove a '93 last year that honestly was in pristine condition at 65000 miles (it almost felt like a new car!), it had been well taken care of.
the other thing is set your budget and search.
for me i'm finding the prices are all over the place.
i think the thing to realize is that at it's newest, we're looking for a car that is 19 years or older. so it will need things at some point.
but as i've said on here, the later model C4s i've driven (93, 94, 96s) all felt like modern cars to me....and the 87 and 89s i've driven, just felt like "older cars" b/c of the interior (but that is not a bad thing). they were still very fun to drive.
i would certainly check through the posts on here, lots of good advice and information...
good luck
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I just picked up a '92. The main thing I noticed when I was looking was the 55HP jump to 300HP from the '91 to the '92 with the LT1. For me that alone ruled out anything older than a '92.
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So 10 years ago at age 53 I bought my first Vette. In my price range I had my choice of the late model years of C4 or the early model years of C5.
After driving more than a half dozen vettes I decided to go for the late model C4. I bought a 95 auto with 25K on it and I paid a premium price at the time for one in very very good condition. I got exactly what I paid for and over the course of the next 6 years I put nearly 100K on the car
A 95 or 96 is a great car BUT (in my opinion) you do get what you pay for. There is no such thing as a inexpensive C4 that is a reliable daily driver. You can either pay for a well maintained car up front in the purchase price or pay out more on a continual basis for the "inexpensive" one that needs lots of replacement parts and mechanical work.
The absolute best piece of advice that I can give you is to drive as many C4s as you can so that you learn to feel the difference in the driving experience of the well maintained car from one that is not.
After driving more than a half dozen vettes I decided to go for the late model C4. I bought a 95 auto with 25K on it and I paid a premium price at the time for one in very very good condition. I got exactly what I paid for and over the course of the next 6 years I put nearly 100K on the car
A 95 or 96 is a great car BUT (in my opinion) you do get what you pay for. There is no such thing as a inexpensive C4 that is a reliable daily driver. You can either pay for a well maintained car up front in the purchase price or pay out more on a continual basis for the "inexpensive" one that needs lots of replacement parts and mechanical work.
The absolute best piece of advice that I can give you is to drive as many C4s as you can so that you learn to feel the difference in the driving experience of the well maintained car from one that is not.
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My suggestion is the same as most guys on here that have been driving these cars any length of time...Buy the newest, cleanest , lowest mile, best condition, car you can afford, and you won't be sorry..This is especially true if you don't intend doing your own work on the car..You can usually look at a car and see if it's been taken care of..
.In most cases the cheaper the car , the more your going to have to spend replacing parts and having it repaired.. But there are exceptions to this rule..Some guys take exceptional care of their cars and even though the cars have higher miles , they are still excellent buys....Buying a Corvette is no different then buying most other cars.. If the car is immaculate on the exterior and interior, you can be pretty sure they have taken care of the mechanics also...WW
.In most cases the cheaper the car , the more your going to have to spend replacing parts and having it repaired.. But there are exceptions to this rule..Some guys take exceptional care of their cars and even though the cars have higher miles , they are still excellent buys....Buying a Corvette is no different then buying most other cars.. If the car is immaculate on the exterior and interior, you can be pretty sure they have taken care of the mechanics also...WW
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I agree with what's been posted here. A '95 or '96 that's been well taken care of by a person who has more than a passing interest is a safer bet. A person who has most or all of the maintenance records will: a) tell you what's been done and when; b) most likely has kept up on what was needed. As mentioned also, make sure you drive as many as you can to feel what is right and take along a knowledgable C4 owner who will point out the good, the bad and the ugly.
Have fun and welcome to the land of the C4!!!!!
Have fun and welcome to the land of the C4!!!!!
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One thing the OP hasn't mentioned is the style of driving that is planned, it can make a difference in vehicle selection. I don't race any more and haven't for a lot of years, I'm into cruising. I wanted a manual transmission as most of my driving is planned to be highway and a convertible is nice. I wanted something that if I was out in the boonies and needed gas I could fill at almost any gas station without risk. I also read too many horror stories relating to the Optispark on the LT1's.
I made my list and based on that selected the car that best matched the answers I had. I'd recommend to the OP he do the same. Make a list of everything you want and don't want in a car. Once that's together then start looking at various models that meet your conditions then once you have that then you can start looking at cars. Don't be afraid to look at cars outside your local area and don't be afraid to ask for help. There are people that will look at a car for you and can give some objective advise on the cars.
I live in Minnesota and found my car is New Mexico. It took a while but I found the car that matched my list of requirements and was within my price range and in acceptable condition. I could do it, you can too.
I made my list and based on that selected the car that best matched the answers I had. I'd recommend to the OP he do the same. Make a list of everything you want and don't want in a car. Once that's together then start looking at various models that meet your conditions then once you have that then you can start looking at cars. Don't be afraid to look at cars outside your local area and don't be afraid to ask for help. There are people that will look at a car for you and can give some objective advise on the cars.
I live in Minnesota and found my car is New Mexico. It took a while but I found the car that matched my list of requirements and was within my price range and in acceptable condition. I could do it, you can too.
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Hello , I am looking to buy my very first C4 Corvette. I am 50 years old and several years ago I had a mid 70's C3 for a short time . I am focused on the C4 ( non-convertible ) ( rather than a C5 ) because I just really like those better , and its just something that I always wanted back before having the "means" to do so . I am looking for any and all guidance and suggestions. Are the C4 's reliable? Which years and models are best to buy ? What are certain things that I should look for ? What are some common problem areas that I should be looking for? I have been focusing on the last 2 years of the C4 , 95 & 96 . I would like to purchase something that I could actually drive more than just on Sundays ( not an everyday driver - but something that I can put some miles on ) . I know this is a somewhat open-ended question . You may even be able to direct me to forum threads that already address this type of info . Thank You very much in advance for any help . ( St. Louis , MO )
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Hi I bought my first vette a 94 coupe. It had 60k on it now has 70k. It has been great, the later c4,s are the best. When you find one you like, make sure everything works , not too high on the miles and have a good time. By the way I was 55 when I bought it, it does not suck
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Got one !!!
Many thanks to all for the information ! I appreciate it , and it has lead me to my first C4 purchase . 1995 Coupe , Torch Red , light tan interior , all stock and unmolested in any way , 64,000 , originally sold at dealership near Las Vegas, Nevada.
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Nice!!
That car looks to be in awesome shape. The interior looks new, and the engine is nice and clean. I'll bet that for the next while, as you walk away from the car, you'll always take a look back at it and smile.
Enjoy!!
and don't forget to wave.
That car looks to be in awesome shape. The interior looks new, and the engine is nice and clean. I'll bet that for the next while, as you walk away from the car, you'll always take a look back at it and smile.
Enjoy!!
and don't forget to wave.
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Great looking 95
Now before you go too far in your new car change all of the fluids from front to back.
Coolant
Oil
Brake fluid
Auto trans fluid ( and the filter screen) Just drain the trans fluid do not "flush" the trans.
Rear diff fluid ( be sure to purchase and add in the rear diff "additive"
Many excellent products. I've been using Amsoil for oil, trans and rear diff for the past 100K.
Now before you go too far in your new car change all of the fluids from front to back.
Coolant
Oil
Brake fluid
Auto trans fluid ( and the filter screen) Just drain the trans fluid do not "flush" the trans.
Rear diff fluid ( be sure to purchase and add in the rear diff "additive"
Many excellent products. I've been using Amsoil for oil, trans and rear diff for the past 100K.
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Ditto all the opinions stated above. Read this forum and drive as many as you can. Keep in mind these are 20+ year old cars and will not behave like a Corolla, which is a good thing for the most part.
I bought the best I could afford, a '95 with 10K miles and do not regret paying a fair price for a great car. My personal recommendations: Don't buy a black car, look for the sport seat option, and try to find one with fresh tires (those suckers are expensive!).
This forum is, hands down, the best source of information.
Be aware that this Corvette thing doesn't stop with the purchase, it just begins there.
I bought the best I could afford, a '95 with 10K miles and do not regret paying a fair price for a great car. My personal recommendations: Don't buy a black car, look for the sport seat option, and try to find one with fresh tires (those suckers are expensive!).
This forum is, hands down, the best source of information.
Be aware that this Corvette thing doesn't stop with the purchase, it just begins there.
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Great looking 95
Now before you go too far in your new car change all of the fluids from front to back.
Coolant
Oil
Brake fluid
Auto trans fluid ( and the filter screen) Just drain the trans fluid do not "flush" the trans.
Rear diff fluid ( be sure to purchase and add in the rear diff "additive"
Many excellent products. I've been using Amsoil for oil, trans and rear diff for the past 100K.
Now before you go too far in your new car change all of the fluids from front to back.
Coolant
Oil
Brake fluid
Auto trans fluid ( and the filter screen) Just drain the trans fluid do not "flush" the trans.
Rear diff fluid ( be sure to purchase and add in the rear diff "additive"
Many excellent products. I've been using Amsoil for oil, trans and rear diff for the past 100K.
Thank you very much ! couple of questions :
- what coolant do you suggest? mixture?
- what brake fluid do you suggest?
- what specific Amsoil tranny fluid?
- what specific Amsoil for rear diff? and what is the "additive" you mentioned?
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Anyway...
- 50/50 mix of coolant and distilled water. Some will also use a bottle or two of Red Line Water Wetter. Your car originally had Dexcool. If you want to switch to traditional Green antifreeze, you need to ensure you do a full flush. Dexcool and traditional antifreeze do not mix.
- Any Dot 3 or Dot 4 fluid will be fine. If you plan to take the car to the road course, then worry about something better. Personally I like Ate Typ 200.
- The Amsoil Signature Series ATF is a nice product. Either of the two they offer will work, as will the OE ATF. For a driver / weekend cruiser you will notice absolutely Zero difference between the three.
- I'd use a 75W90. Unless specifically stated, you need to add the friction modifier so the clutch packs in the differential don't chatter. From the website: " If limited-slip differential chatter occurs, add AMSOIL Slip-Lock® friction modifier additive."