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I wonder what the power to weight ratio is for the C4 ZR1 vs 2016 SS Camaro.
The ZR1 gives up 45 hp (405hp) to the SS (450hp) but the SS although it lost 175 lbs is still around 3700lbs!
The ZR1 is about 3400 to 3500?
It would be a close race.
I wonder what the power to weight ratio is for the C4 ZR1 vs 2016 SS Camaro.
The ZR1 gives up 45 hp (405hp) to the SS (450hp) but the SS although it lost 175 lbs is still around 3700lbs!
The ZR1 is about 3400 to 3500?
It would be a close race.
SS weighs 3600lb, and quite a few are running 11s at the drag strip. I'm not sure it'd be much of a race.
All things being equal, it would be a drivers race. Of course, they wouldn't be. Like most of these races between new and classic cars, the classic cars have older parts (tires, etc) and its nearly impossible to find an owner who will subject his car to the strain of an all out launch and race. That said, there are still a few ZR-1 owners who do race them.
450hp! it will eat you up with two baby seats in the back.
in a drag race, it sure will, but add corning into the mix and the C4 can hold it's own verse a new Camaro. Here's me in my '92 LT1/auto trans Vette racing a 2010 Camaro with a LS3 and 6-speed manual. The LS3 had a hot cam, cat-back exhaust, and a matching tune. Owner/driver, who has 15 years professional driving experience, says the Camaro has around 400 hp. I am completely stock. He ate me up in the straightaways, but I was faster in the corners(keep in mind, I just started racing and just bought my first Vette in Oct 2014). This is the Camaro's owner/driver- http://www.luvracin.com/03_z_Va/Virg...43_harris.html
That looked like a cool race..a draqg race with two corners. Never saw that b4. As to the posting..I am sure the new car will outrun out c-4 4s. But, But, ride in one for a year or two, and they will look like any other camero and thee are lots and lots of them on the road now. Like mustangs, I call the "me too" cars. Someone says " hey I had a camero like that and someone else always says, yes me too .
It drives me nuts when folks compare sedans or coupes to sports cars. Sure the right mustang is faster than a similar Corvette, but its not a Corvette. I love how the last issue of Car and Driver (no affiliation) compares a Stang Gt with a C7 and gives the trophy to the Stang based on "better shifter". Gimme a break. I'm surprised they didni't factor in the cup slots. One thing Corvettes have in common is that they are all true sports cars. There are no compromises. A mustang can be a economy grocery getter or a race track fugitive, but it is still a Stang. No comparison. I'm going to say the same thing for the Camaro. No comparison.
That looked like a cool race..a draqg race with two corners. Never saw that b4.
One lap circle track drag race is what it is. There are plenty of tracks that do it. Personally, I race at Langley Raceway on Wednesday nights. Street car race night event called Wacky Wednesday. You can see more videos here- https://www.youtube.com/channel/UCFI...CDB3-4QAVP95yg
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Some nOObs in here want to believe there is a slightly chance for a 30-20 year old underpowered Corvette to beat a brand new Camaro with the new LT1 engine.
Let me go back to 1998 when the Camaro came out with the LS1, and that Camaro 18 years ago was faster. I got beaten three times back-to-back by one on my 1992 LT1 Vert.
The new Camaro is a great looking car, it's comfortable, easy to work on, and great body lines. Few days ago I saw one at the dealer, and I gave it a throughout inspection. The interiors are comfortable, the instrumentation is user friendly and the powerplant is above all else. I consider this Camaro to be a great evolution on the Camaro line, and it would make a great daily driver.
Yep, the new camaro is a nice looking and high performance coupe, and may be faster and better in every way to a 30-20 (?) year old C4.
At 4 to 6 times the cost. And if you're under 25 and lucky enough to own one, insurance ain't gonna be cheap.
The numbers aren't the be all end all of car ownership. I, among other C4 owners I imagine, aren't C4 owners because it's the fastest or the newest. I own it because I wanted that one. For someone to boast about a brand new car being better in every way to a 25 year old car is kind of asinine.
This nOOb prefers his Vette. Why? Because, well, ...it's a Vette!
Yes the 2016 Camaro LT1 will beat the C4 ZR1/LT5, assuming both are stock.
If I could afford a 2016 Camaro I would start making plans to get one this spring. With the LT1 and a manual transmission. In white, of course. They are very nice.
Originally Posted by 73n95
It drives me nuts when folks compare sedans or coupes to sports cars. Sure the right mustang is faster than a similar Corvette, but its not a Corvette. I love how the last issue of Car and Driver (no affiliation) compares a Stang GT with a C7 and gives the trophy to the Stang based on "better shifter". Gimme a break. I'm surprised they didn't factor in the cup slots. One thing Corvettes have in common is that they are all true sports cars. There are no compromises. A mustang can be a economy grocery getter or a race track fugitive, but it is still a Stang. No comparison. I'm going to say the same thing for the Camaro. No comparison.
Your point about comparing muscle cars/sports coupes to sports cars is certainly valid. Nobody would argue that there aren't any differences between these cars. However, there are some obvious similarities. SBC, rear-wheel drive performance car, made in America by the same American manufacturer. And plenty more similarities I just can't think of right now. I also believe that the adjusted prices for a well-optioned C4 and a new Camaro SS are in the same ballpark, not counting the C4 ZR-1 of course. And keeping with the theme "it's not a Corvette," comparing a C4 to a C7 or even a c6, stock-for-stock, would be pointless. So we would have to compare the C4 to other 90's sports cars, which has already been done a thousand times.
Every new hot rod (2016 SS) provides a new opportunity to compare performance. These opportunities are quickly snatched up by enthusiast crowds (such as corvetteforum.com).
I don't think I am a noob PLRX considering I used to race a third generation Camaro Z28 at the dragstrip in the late 80s and oh yeah I am 53 years of age. My Camaro use to beat most Grand Nationals, Mustangs and Eat IROC Z28s. With me and a cage my third gen was 3640 lbs. very heavy, but it had high HP. So power to weight rules in a drag race. The ZR1s were 405hp and 3400 or so lbs no driver so against an SS it might be a close race if the ZR1 is in great shape with new tires.
I also don't believe a STOCK 2016 SS Camaro will get in the 11s. 450hp and 3600 to 3700 lbs no driver does not add up to 11s.
By the way I do like the new Camaro SS very much (not a hater).
This thread is not just about which Car is faster, it's more about comfort and driving and every day issues. Why is every comment about "My Vette is faster than yours". We all know the C4 is very comfortable to sit in and drive, but what about this new 6th gen SS? The 5th gen had Recaro seat options, I never sat in those, but I did test drive a 5th gen with stock seats and I was NOT impressed. Hard to see out the back, blind spots and seats were not very comfortable.
Has anyone sat in or test drove this new 2016 SS? Comments?
I would say for a day to day driver the new Camaro blows the c4 away more then in a drag race. Its not only fast but it get better gas milage rides better is much more reliable and has many more creature comforts that were not around in the 90s and is ALOT more easy to get in and out of and has an actual trunk. I don't have to drive a 2016 ive drove a 2014 and all of this applys and the 2016 is just more of all of it. A c4 is a good car for what it is and what it costs. In its day it was king but cars have come A LONG WAYS since them and its kind of silly to try to compare a c4 to an new camero. Its about like trying to compare a F-15 to the new raptor. Bottom line is most of us here if honest will say we drive c4s because its tough to afford to spend more on a newer play toy. If I won that 1 billion plus lotto I really doubt if I would keep the old 92 vette around. Sure its got a raw feeling that's kind of cool but so does a ls6 chevelle or a L88 vette if I want something old to drive.
Last edited by Lloyd Smale; 01-12-2016 at 05:54 AM.
Some nOObs in here want to believe there is a slightly chance for a 30-20 year old underpowered Corvette to beat a brand new Camaro with the new LT1 engine.
Let me go back to 1998 when the Camaro came out with the LS1, and that Camaro 18 years ago was faster. I got beaten three times back-to-back by one on my 1992 LT1 Vert.
The new Camaro is a great looking car, it's comfortable, easy to work on, and great body lines. Few days ago I saw one at the dealer, and I gave it a throughout inspection. The interiors are comfortable, the instrumentation is user friendly and the powerplant is above all else. I consider this Camaro to be a great evolution on the Camaro line, and it would make a great daily driver.
Now... It has Corvette tail lights.
Oh, man... And, I thought changing plugs on my LT1 was a pain!!
Some nOObs in here want to believe there is a slightly chance for a 30-20 year old underpowered Corvette to beat a brand new Camaro with the new LT1 engine.
Let me go back to 1998 when the Camaro came out with the LS1, and that Camaro 18 years ago was faster. I got beaten three times back-to-back by one on my 1992 LT1 Vert.
Add corning into the mix, and yes, the stock C4 can hang with the new Camaros. Hell. I was right there at the finish racing a 15 year pro in his own car, while I only had less than a year experience. Watch the video and then say I can't win that race with more experience.I will beat that Camaro this season, trust me. And I will post the video of it when I do.
01-11-2016, 02:56 AM
2016 Camaro SS vs C4 / C4 ZR-1
It has Corvette tail lights.
