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Old 06-27-2016, 06:19 PM
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If they keep going like they are, how long before the working man's true sports car is unattainable? The prices are getting nuts imo. Might kill the corvette.


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Adjusted for inflation, they're pretty much where they've always been. I think the decline of middle class wages is probably a bigger factor.
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Adjusted for inflation, they're pretty much where they've always been. I think the decline of middle class wages is probably a bigger factor.
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Adjusted for inflation, they're pretty much where they've always been. I think the decline of middle class wages is probably a bigger factor.
with wages. I think I heard c8 mid engine might be $150k?

I used this calculator which may vary, and I got a 1953 vette=$3,495.00 now 2016=$31,000

They are way more now.

https://www.measuringworth.com/uscompare/

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Originally Posted by pologreen1
with wages. I think I heard c8 mid engine might be $150k?

I used this calculator which may vary, and I got a 1953 vette=$3,495.00 now 2016=$31,000

They are way more now.

https://www.measuringworth.com/uscom...ativevalue.php
My thought when comparing the price on a 1953 is how much has been added to a newer vette. I suspect if you took a 1995 with air bags, antilock brakes etc. it would come out much closer to todays pricing. Though when you think about it $ 3,495.00 was a big chunk of change back in 1953. I bet you could get a smaller home in 1953 for around $10 to 15K in most areas of the country
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Originally Posted by pologreen1
If they keep going like they are, how long before the working man's true sports car is unattainable? The prices are getting nuts imo. Might kill the corvette.


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I think the iconic American Sports Car is already dead. They have made the Corvette just another European Sports Car with the permanently mounted headlights and the C7 taillights.
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Or maybe, finally a world class sports car.
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Or maybe, finally a world class sports car.
EVERY new gen 'Vette has been, "Finally, a world class sports car". Even the C3. Just read the mag reviews from introduction of every gen.


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My dad had a C3. I have a C7. Not sure the C3 was world class 'specially before disc brakes. I've convinced a few Porsches that the C7 is.
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The Corvette has never been an every person(s) car. That is part of the mystique. Or really a goal for many of us growing up.

I think the bigger problem is the age group that appreciates the lineage and history.

Luckily GM is moving forward into the "new age" adding all the electronic goodies has attracted the younger crowd and the styling is certainly more modern and trends to what people like and appreciate in a exotic type of car.

Price is relevant... My 2016 Silverado was $65K, And let me remind you, it is a pick up.... In today's world even the cheep throwaway cars are breaking $20K.

I personally they will continue to push the price as far as they can until people quite buying them, then adjust the price with rebates, incentives and financing (sound familiar?)

Lets face it when a watch that costs $8K to match the hobby is selling well, it will be a long time before Corvette has to worry about reaching it's topping out point.

(I say this hoping..... The rebates incentives etc kick in real soon, I want a C7 bad)

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My '16 Z51 M7 coupe was $56k before tax and that included Museum Delivery.
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prices on new cars are insane, period out of my reach
Heard a loaded Colorado which is an S10 is 50k.

Ill stick to my old beaters without all the electrical headaches, thanks
They just get old and bankrupt you';my 02 Silverado was 23k new not bad....its pure junk now code after code after code....smogging it and dumping it quick.

Cant imagine a C7 out of warranty, leasing is now the way to go.
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Originally Posted by Tom400CFI
EVERY new gen 'Vette has been, "Finally, a world class sports car". Even the C3. Just read the mag reviews from introduction of every gen.


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And they have been. Except for the effete Europhile bastards that write most of the car magazines. For the money, and reliability, they've been untouchable.
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Originally Posted by RichsC4Vette
I think the iconic American Sports Car is already dead. They have made the Corvette just another European Sports Car with the permanently mounted headlights and the C7 taillights.
Really? Perhaps they should remain in the 80s and be savaged for not being a world class automobile. It's the best Corvette ever, as it should be, at a bargain compared to the competition.
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I believe Polo OP saw the C8 mid engine thread today. I commented on how maybe GM wants to grow the brand by having a min and non mid engine option.

I agree though that they will become unreachable. GM is running a busn and busn has to chase money w/ few exceptions. If the rich are getting rich and middle class is disappearing, doesn't make sense to keep makin a car the mid to higher middle class can afford.

And though ppl are right here saying entry level cars are in the 20k easily, **** the newest Civic SI is gonna start at 30k I think
Well 20k is still a lot more affordable than 50-60k.. that class of buyer is vanishing fast!

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I said that in 1986 when I saw the price for a C4, the same in 1996 when a GS was in a dealer in Carlsbad, CA, C5 Vette in Tustin 1997, 2004 when the Ce came out, 2005 when the C6 came out, when the C6Z06 came out.

I figured I was going to die and would never enjoy a new Z06. The truth is we do have the money, and we also waste it on something else. Now I can no longer do 3-4 annual cross country trips.

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Originally Posted by juanvaldez
My dad had a C3. I have a C7. Not sure the C3 was world class 'specially before disc brakes. I've convinced a few Porsches that the C7 is.
Right. People "convinced a few Porsches" with C3's back then, too. Ya need to compare 70's Porsches to '70's 'Vettes, if you're going to play that game. I HAD a link to a C&D '70 'Vette vs '70 Porsche article where they literally called the 'Vette "world class". That article is gone, but here is another similar comparo...

'70 C3 vs '70 911

"The Corvette was just as fast if not faster through the corners as the Porsche. Think about that, purists."

"There is but one word to describe the Corvette’s handling: superb."



And I think that all C3's had 4 wheel discs.
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Originally Posted by Tom400CFI
Right. People "convinced a few Porsches" with C3's back then, too. Ya need to compare 70's Porsches to '70's 'Vettes, if you're going to play that game. I HAD a link to a C&D '70 'Vette vs '70 Porsche article where they literally called the 'Vette "world class". That article is gone, but here is another similar comparo...

'70 C3 vs '70 911

"The Corvette was just as fast if not faster through the corners as the Porsche. Think about that, purists."

"There is but one word to describe the Corvette’s handling: superb."




And I think that all C3's had 4 wheel discs.
Mistype. Dad had a ratty '64 C2. Not a fan of C3s.

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I'd argue that the C7 is out of reach for the average guy now. Especially if you want one with some toys.

Cars in general have become more and more laden down with crap. eLSDs and Direct Injection and magnetic dampers and things like that add massive amounts of cost to the cars, and all they really do is numb the experience down.

Corvette is in trouble in my opinion. Ford has pushed the Mustang to be very close to the Corvette in terms of performance because it has no real Corvette competitor. That's fine, most people buying a Corvette don't care about Mustangs. The problem is that to compete with Mustang, GM has had to improve the Camaro as well. And the new Camaro is very close in terms of performance to the C7. For a LOT less money. And it has nice interior and toys now to boot. That's a big problem for Corvette, because all the younger guys are gonna buy Camaros, and not have the passion for Corvette that is needed to sustain it long term.
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O.K...well I'm not going to look, but I'd bet a '64 'Vette could hold it's own just fine against a '64 Porsche.
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The stingray isn't too expensive compared to some other cars, but if you're gonna get a corvette might as well go all the way, atleast my opinion. I'd never buy a car new, nor have the money, even if I did i'd much rather spend it on other things, hell i'd throw 20k at my c4 and have enough to build a decent garage for it too!


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