Appropriate book hours for U-joint/half shaft?
07-22-2016, 04:41 PM
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With a lift I would only need one of those jobs a week to live
07-22-2016, 04:42 PM
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Not many techs not going to want or even try to change u-joint while driveshafts or half shafts are on the car. That is just asking for trouble. Since the half shafts are bolted in I would replace both on the effect shaft. If I was selling the job at / for a shop all 4( CYA ) I not going have the discussion how I should have known the other ones would fail within a year.
What I posted was a break down of Tom400CFI labor time 4.4 for all 4. At 900 for one not making any sense other than repair shop didn't want to work on your car.
What I posted was a break down of Tom400CFI labor time 4.4 for all 4. At 900 for one not making any sense other than repair shop didn't want to work on your car.
I've got a couple more places to call next week, then I'm going to throw in the towel and park the car until my knee is healed up enough to do it myself.
07-22-2016, 06:19 PM
#23
Melting Slicks
$900 for one U-joint is CRAZY expensive
Its frustrating to see shops trying to rip covette owners off. If I lived nearby I would just comeby and do the job to help you out, but I live in Canada unfortunately.
Its frustrating to see shops trying to rip covette owners off. If I lived nearby I would just comeby and do the job to help you out, but I live in Canada unfortunately.
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07-22-2016, 10:37 PM
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A couple weeks back I asked about changing out a u-joint on my 87, and was given some excellent advice, and I thought I had a handle on what I needed to do.
Unfortunately, right after that thread, I re-injured the knee I had surgery on earlier this year... so there will be no crawling around under the car for me for a while.
I took the car to a local independent shop (the dealership where the car was sold new told me "we don't work in old cars"). I was told that not only was the U-joint bad, but that I needed a new half-shaft as well (how often do these go bad?). They told me that it was going to 4.5 hours of labor, and between parts and labor gave me a quote just below $900, which I think is positively outrageous. Given that guys here say they can change them out in 30 minutes, I'm wondering if this is the "we don't want to do this job" price.
Anyone know what actual book hours is for this repair?
Unfortunately, right after that thread, I re-injured the knee I had surgery on earlier this year... so there will be no crawling around under the car for me for a while.
I took the car to a local independent shop (the dealership where the car was sold new told me "we don't work in old cars"). I was told that not only was the U-joint bad, but that I needed a new half-shaft as well (how often do these go bad?). They told me that it was going to 4.5 hours of labor, and between parts and labor gave me a quote just below $900, which I think is positively outrageous. Given that guys here say they can change them out in 30 minutes, I'm wondering if this is the "we don't want to do this job" price.
Anyone know what actual book hours is for this repair?
07-24-2016, 07:17 PM
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DeNooyer is one of the places that told me "We don't work on old cars" in a snide tone as soon as told them it was an 87.
In other news, I bought a used half shaft on Ebay. It'll be here in a couple of days. Someone mentioned that the part numbers on Rock Auto for the U-joints aren't correct (more accurately, that the inner and outer are different part numbers-- Rockauto shows them as the same). Can anyone point me to correct Spicer, GM, or other quality brand part numbers?
I'm a reasonably competent wrench, and I can handle the rebuild of the half shaft myself. Hopefully I can find a local mechanic to put it in.
In other news, I bought a used half shaft on Ebay. It'll be here in a couple of days. Someone mentioned that the part numbers on Rock Auto for the U-joints aren't correct (more accurately, that the inner and outer are different part numbers-- Rockauto shows them as the same). Can anyone point me to correct Spicer, GM, or other quality brand part numbers?
I'm a reasonably competent wrench, and I can handle the rebuild of the half shaft myself. Hopefully I can find a local mechanic to put it in.
07-24-2016, 07:54 PM
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Since when is there diffreant inner and outer U-joints on the half shafts. When I did mine I put all four the same in my half shafs and paid no attention to how they came out. Been working fine for the last three years.
07-24-2016, 10:20 PM
#27
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DeNooyer is one of the places that told me "We don't work on old cars" in a snide tone as soon as told them it was an 87.
In other news, I bought a used half shaft on Ebay. It'll be here in a couple of days. Someone mentioned that the part numbers on Rock Auto for the U-joints aren't correct (more accurately, that the inner and outer are different part numbers-- Rockauto shows them as the same). Can anyone point me to correct Spicer, GM, or other quality brand part numbers?
I'm a reasonably competent wrench, and I can handle the rebuild of the half shaft myself. Hopefully I can find a local mechanic to put it in.
In other news, I bought a used half shaft on Ebay. It'll be here in a couple of days. Someone mentioned that the part numbers on Rock Auto for the U-joints aren't correct (more accurately, that the inner and outer are different part numbers-- Rockauto shows them as the same). Can anyone point me to correct Spicer, GM, or other quality brand part numbers?
I'm a reasonably competent wrench, and I can handle the rebuild of the half shaft myself. Hopefully I can find a local mechanic to put it in.
07-25-2016, 08:32 AM
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DeNooyer is one of the places that told me "We don't work on old cars" in a snide tone as soon as told them it was an 87.
In other news, I bought a used half shaft on Ebay. It'll be here in a couple of days. Someone mentioned that the part numbers on Rock Auto for the U-joints aren't correct (more accurately, that the inner and outer are different part numbers-- Rockauto shows them as the same). Can anyone point me to correct Spicer, GM, or other quality brand part numbers?
I'm a reasonably competent wrench, and I can handle the rebuild of the half shaft myself. Hopefully I can find a local mechanic to put it in.
In other news, I bought a used half shaft on Ebay. It'll be here in a couple of days. Someone mentioned that the part numbers on Rock Auto for the U-joints aren't correct (more accurately, that the inner and outer are different part numbers-- Rockauto shows them as the same). Can anyone point me to correct Spicer, GM, or other quality brand part numbers?
I'm a reasonably competent wrench, and I can handle the rebuild of the half shaft myself. Hopefully I can find a local mechanic to put it in.
RH
07-25-2016, 08:36 AM
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Thanks!
There may not be an issue at all, but the replacement I found was cheap medicine. With my current knee situation, I can't get on the ground to change it, but the shop that looked at it was insistent I needed to replace the half shaft. I figure I'll get that and the U-Joints and take care of the work that I can get done on the bench before I bring it to a shop for installation.
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07-25-2016, 01:46 PM
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Melting Slicks
As someone stated above the U-joints each side of the halfshaft are the same.
All you need really for this job is basically just a bench vise OR hydraulic press so you can get the u-joints in/out of the ends on the half shaft. Should be pretty simple.
I think your deciding to just bring them a half-shaft with u-joints installed is a smart choice given your situation and that you got the half-shaft for cheap. Best of luck!
All you need really for this job is basically just a bench vise OR hydraulic press so you can get the u-joints in/out of the ends on the half shaft. Should be pretty simple.
I think your deciding to just bring them a half-shaft with u-joints installed is a smart choice given your situation and that you got the half-shaft for cheap. Best of luck!
04-21-2017, 11:46 AM
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I just happened to click on this post, and I thought it would be appropriate to bring it to closure (even if it is 8 months later!).
The mechanic that DT86 recommended to me in PM was absolutely wonderful to deal with. He installed only the necessary side, and charged me a very reasonable price for the service (which took about 45 minutes).
The mechanic that DT86 recommended to me in PM was absolutely wonderful to deal with. He installed only the necessary side, and charged me a very reasonable price for the service (which took about 45 minutes).
04-21-2017, 12:28 PM
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Le Mans Master
I just happened to click on this post, and I thought it would be appropriate to bring it to closure (even if it is 8 months later!).
The mechanic that DT86 recommended to me in PM was absolutely wonderful to deal with. He installed only the necessary side, and charged me a very reasonable price for the service (which took about 45 minutes).
The mechanic that DT86 recommended to me in PM was absolutely wonderful to deal with. He installed only the necessary side, and charged me a very reasonable price for the service (which took about 45 minutes).