C4's with 383's or 406CID Engines chime in.
08-24-2003, 09:51 PM
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C4's with 383's or 406CID Engines chime in.
Just list your:
1.HP/TQ FIgures,
2.Head specs,
3.Intake specs if stock( I hopenot) Aftermarket, which one, Injectors etc.
5.Exhaust detial
4.Transmission
5.Stock ECM or Aftermarket
6.Track times.
7.Power Adders
8.Mistakes or any tips.
I would just like to know what kind of 406's or 383CID engines are doing and just the detail of it so I can know how I can build mine up correctly. :yesnod:
Edit: Anything from 383+ Is not turned down, please offer some help, tips, info, experience. :yesnod: :seeya :auto:
[Modified by Light84vette, 6:08 AM 8/28/2003]
1.HP/TQ FIgures,
2.Head specs,
3.Intake specs if stock( I hopenot) Aftermarket, which one, Injectors etc.
5.Exhaust detial
4.Transmission
5.Stock ECM or Aftermarket
6.Track times.
7.Power Adders
8.Mistakes or any tips.
I would just like to know what kind of 406's or 383CID engines are doing and just the detail of it so I can know how I can build mine up correctly. :yesnod:
Edit: Anything from 383+ Is not turned down, please offer some help, tips, info, experience. :yesnod: :seeya :auto:
[Modified by Light84vette, 6:08 AM 8/28/2003]
08-24-2003, 10:45 PM
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C4's with 383's or 406CID Engines chime in.
Just list your:
1.HP/TQ FIgures, (Crank) 440/480
2.Head specs, (Donno, call LPE) they're factory d port heads, worked by LPE
3.Intake specs if stock( I hopenot) Aftermarket, which one, Injectors etc.(super ram, ported and polished, 26 pound injectors)
5.Exhaust detail 1"3/4 LPE long tubes, borla cat back system 2.5"
4.Transmission 700R4 re done by Gran Trans w/pro torque 2800 stall(lock up)
5.Stock ECM or Aftermarket had a stock LPE tuned chip....ehh, now Gen VII DFI
6.Track times. 12.19@117 as is in sig, 11.84@117 smoking the drag radials(1.73 60')
7.Power Adders Umm, NOPE!
8.Mistakes or any tips. I should have gone for the 420 track 1 headed motor :D
:cheers:
[Modified by Jay 383, 10:45 PM 8/24/2003]
1.HP/TQ FIgures, (Crank) 440/480
2.Head specs, (Donno, call LPE) they're factory d port heads, worked by LPE
3.Intake specs if stock( I hopenot) Aftermarket, which one, Injectors etc.(super ram, ported and polished, 26 pound injectors)
5.Exhaust detail 1"3/4 LPE long tubes, borla cat back system 2.5"
4.Transmission 700R4 re done by Gran Trans w/pro torque 2800 stall(lock up)
5.Stock ECM or Aftermarket had a stock LPE tuned chip....ehh, now Gen VII DFI
6.Track times. 12.19@117 as is in sig, 11.84@117 smoking the drag radials(1.73 60')
7.Power Adders Umm, NOPE!
8.Mistakes or any tips. I should have gone for the 420 track 1 headed motor :D
:cheers:
[Modified by Jay 383, 10:45 PM 8/24/2003]
08-24-2003, 10:47 PM
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Re: C4's with 383's or 406CID Engines chime in. (Jay 383)
times are in the sig parts buildup are on the link :cheers:
08-24-2003, 11:47 PM
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Re: C4's with 383's or 406CID Engines chime in. (CORKVETTE1)
383 LT1 12:1 compression LT4 intake, Stock LT1 heads ported by me. Comp cams extreme 224 with 1.6 RR. Exotic muscle headers into a Flowmaster cat back, no cats. ZF-6 w/3:45 rear Ed Wright programing (not quite right I've got some drivability problems) as far as #'s HP and Torque? 1/4 mile? I only have 350 miles on the engine I havent "layed into" it yet.
08-25-2003, 10:21 AM
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Re: C4's with 383's or 406CID Engines chime in. (BAM92)
The 383 I'm building as we speak:
1.Don't know yet
2.Trickflow twisted wedge. 67cc. 2.02/1.60, fully ported
3.Polished Accel base, ported/polished Superram upper
5.Hooker 2149 1-3/4 primaries, flowmaster catback
4.Rebuilt 700R4
5.Stock ECM (for now)
6.N/A
7.None
8.None yet (fingers crossed).
[Modified by NUckINg FuTS, 12:10 PM 8/25/2003]
1.Don't know yet
2.Trickflow twisted wedge. 67cc. 2.02/1.60, fully ported
3.Polished Accel base, ported/polished Superram upper
5.Hooker 2149 1-3/4 primaries, flowmaster catback
4.Rebuilt 700R4
5.Stock ECM (for now)
6.N/A
7.None
8.None yet (fingers crossed).
[Modified by NUckINg FuTS, 12:10 PM 8/25/2003]
08-25-2003, 12:37 PM
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Re: C4's with 383's or 406CID Engines chime in. (Light84vette)
Just list your:
1.HP/TQ FIgures,.........(Havent dynoed it yet, should be fairly close to 375- at rear wheels. I hope. )
2.Head specs,.....(Stock, ported, gasket matched, 3 angle valve job.)
3.Intake specs if stock, Aftermarket, which one, Injectors etc......(Stock for now.. Ported, siamese runners, gasket matched, 22lb. injectors, 52 mm. throttle body rebuilt with roller bearings ect.)
5.Exhaust detial.......(Tpis coated longe tube headers 3in Y to a high flow cat, out thru another Y to Flowmaster 3 chamber 50 series mufflers.)
4.Transmission........(700 R4, rebuilt stock vette trans for now.)
5.Stock ECM or Aftermarket......(Custom chip by Jessi, sk_dwn_it,)
6.Track times........(NA,)
7.Power Adders......(NA,)
8.Mistakes or any tips.....(Do any work you can do your self, expensive exotic parts arent nesessary for the street. spend wisely, get a plan for what you want to do and stick to it. Ask lots of questions. It trans. is automatic get a cooler.)
(Lingenfilter cam, 1.6 RRs, MSD Dist Cap, Wires, Eagle stroker kit with 6in. rods.
11:1 Compression ratio, Balanced and Blueprinted.)
1.HP/TQ FIgures,.........(Havent dynoed it yet, should be fairly close to 375- at rear wheels. I hope. )
2.Head specs,.....(Stock, ported, gasket matched, 3 angle valve job.)
3.Intake specs if stock, Aftermarket, which one, Injectors etc......(Stock for now.. Ported, siamese runners, gasket matched, 22lb. injectors, 52 mm. throttle body rebuilt with roller bearings ect.)
5.Exhaust detial.......(Tpis coated longe tube headers 3in Y to a high flow cat, out thru another Y to Flowmaster 3 chamber 50 series mufflers.)
4.Transmission........(700 R4, rebuilt stock vette trans for now.)
5.Stock ECM or Aftermarket......(Custom chip by Jessi, sk_dwn_it,)
6.Track times........(NA,)
7.Power Adders......(NA,)
8.Mistakes or any tips.....(Do any work you can do your self, expensive exotic parts arent nesessary for the street. spend wisely, get a plan for what you want to do and stick to it. Ask lots of questions. It trans. is automatic get a cooler.)
(Lingenfilter cam, 1.6 RRs, MSD Dist Cap, Wires, Eagle stroker kit with 6in. rods.
11:1 Compression ratio, Balanced and Blueprinted.)
[Modified by jimmyd, 1:34 PM 8/27/2003]
08-25-2003, 12:40 PM
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Re: C4's with 383's or 406CID Engines chime in. (Light84vette)
Just list your:
1.HP/TQ FIgures,
2.Head specs, - I have no idea.. i havent finished breaking in the motor.
3.Intake specs if stock( I hopenot) Aftermarket, which one, Injectors etc. - stock LT1 intake and TB
5.Exhaust detial - Stock exhaust with gutted fingers
4.Transmission - stock
5.Stock ECM or Aftermarket - PCMforless.com chip.. have some drivability issues but alvin is reprogramming as we speak
6.Track times. - havent been to the track yet
7.Power Adders - gasoline
8.Mistakes or any tips. - my machine shop! wont use them again! too many blunders.. I think I would have gone with a bigger cam (hotcam seems small for 383) oh and be careful not to pinch the wiring harness along the firewall when isnalling it.. it gives you serious electrical issues!!
good luck!
1.HP/TQ FIgures,
2.Head specs, - I have no idea.. i havent finished breaking in the motor.
3.Intake specs if stock( I hopenot) Aftermarket, which one, Injectors etc. - stock LT1 intake and TB
5.Exhaust detial - Stock exhaust with gutted fingers
4.Transmission - stock
5.Stock ECM or Aftermarket - PCMforless.com chip.. have some drivability issues but alvin is reprogramming as we speak
6.Track times. - havent been to the track yet
7.Power Adders - gasoline
8.Mistakes or any tips. - my machine shop! wont use them again! too many blunders.. I think I would have gone with a bigger cam (hotcam seems small for 383) oh and be careful not to pinch the wiring harness along the firewall when isnalling it.. it gives you serious electrical issues!!
good luck!
08-25-2003, 01:24 PM
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Re: C4's with 383's or 406CID Engines chime in. (everyone)
For those of you who have deleted the Smog pump and system, would it be wise to put on one muffler in place of where the stock CAT was and run straight pipes to the back? This way it would give the throaty sound and not the deep low bassy sound like it would if it were to have the mufflers in the stock location.
08-26-2003, 12:11 AM
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Re: C4's with 383's or 406CID Engines chime in. (BAM92)
Did you have to do alot of grinding to make that lt4 intake fit your lt1 heads?
08-27-2003, 10:46 PM
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Re: C4's with 383's or 406CID Engines chime in. (Light84vette)
1986 Z-51 coupe
310 HP and 388 ft-lbs of torque at the wheels
AFR 190's
Superram with 24# injectors
Longtube Headers with a single one foot tube after the Y pipe
ZF6
Accel 7.0 DFI
Car is used for autox and track events
If anything can be modded, it was
The car is very quick, wheel spin is a problem while racing (great on the street)
There was a lot of trouble with this engine going together, things went wrong that shouldn't have. And everything had some sort of issue. Would I do it again......IN A HEARTBEAT.
Joe :steering:
310 HP and 388 ft-lbs of torque at the wheels
AFR 190's
Superram with 24# injectors
Longtube Headers with a single one foot tube after the Y pipe
ZF6
Accel 7.0 DFI
Car is used for autox and track events
If anything can be modded, it was
The car is very quick, wheel spin is a problem while racing (great on the street)
There was a lot of trouble with this engine going together, things went wrong that shouldn't have. And everything had some sort of issue. Would I do it again......IN A HEARTBEAT.
Joe :steering:
08-28-2003, 12:10 AM
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Re: C4's with 383's or 406CID Engines chime in. (Light84vette)
Just list your:
1.HP/TQ FIgures, = 450/430?
2.Head specs, Dart Pto 1 ?
3.Intake specs Edelbrock rpm airgap with holly 750 5.Exhaust detial: Full length coated headers W true dual exhaust with Hooker Aero chamber mufflers
4.Transmission:Built 700r-4 with trans go shift kit & 2800 stall converter
5.Stock ECM or Aftermarket: Computer only rung trans & guages!
6.Track times. G tech mid 12's!
7.Power Adders: 373's in rear
8.Mistakes or any tips. Never try to make a crossfire fast!
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1.HP/TQ FIgures, = 450/430?
2.Head specs, Dart Pto 1 ?
3.Intake specs Edelbrock rpm airgap with holly 750 5.Exhaust detial: Full length coated headers W true dual exhaust with Hooker Aero chamber mufflers
4.Transmission:Built 700r-4 with trans go shift kit & 2800 stall converter
5.Stock ECM or Aftermarket: Computer only rung trans & guages!
6.Track times. G tech mid 12's!
7.Power Adders: 373's in rear
8.Mistakes or any tips. Never try to make a crossfire fast!
:crazy:
08-28-2003, 01:07 AM
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Re: C4's with 383's or 406CID Engines chime in. (Light84vette)
For those of you who have deleted the Smog pump and system, would it be wise to put on one muffler in place of where the stock CAT was and run straight pipes to the back? This way it would give the throaty sound and not the deep low bassy sound like it would if it were to have the mufflers in the stock location.
Also, When going with a Big CID engine, what size exhaust system is best? WOuld 2.5inches be good enough? Or should I go with a big 3incher all the way from the collector to the rear? :confused:
09-07-2003, 09:39 AM
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Re: C4's with 383's or 406CID Engines chime in. (James J)
Just list your:
1.HP/TQ FIgures, 560 - 500 lb ft (406 13:1 on race gas)
2.Head specs: Victor Junior 23 deg.
3.Intake specs: TPIS miniram - ported to heads 24# injectors - 58 mm tb
4.Transmission: Jerico 4 speed (DON'T US A 700 R! YOU'LL HATE IT) Dana 44 with 4:11 ratio
5.Stock ECM or Aftermarket: Programmable SpeedPro controller with wide band oxygen sensor
6.Track times: I road race my car, but ran 11:90 at 120 at 4300 feet with a 2 second 60 foot time (no traction with road race tires)
7.Power Adders: Lingenfelter 1 3/4" headers and dual 3" exhaust - no cats)
8.Mistakes or any tips: Be very careful about your ultimate goal for the car. I've spent $80k figuring that out. Plan your project and build it right the first time.
I used J.E. pistons, Manley 6" H-beam rods, Crower crank, Mike Jones cam, Jesel valve train, Crower roller lifters, Bowtie block Mallory distributor.
Good luck
1.HP/TQ FIgures, 560 - 500 lb ft (406 13:1 on race gas)
2.Head specs: Victor Junior 23 deg.
3.Intake specs: TPIS miniram - ported to heads 24# injectors - 58 mm tb
4.Transmission: Jerico 4 speed (DON'T US A 700 R! YOU'LL HATE IT) Dana 44 with 4:11 ratio
5.Stock ECM or Aftermarket: Programmable SpeedPro controller with wide band oxygen sensor
6.Track times: I road race my car, but ran 11:90 at 120 at 4300 feet with a 2 second 60 foot time (no traction with road race tires)
7.Power Adders: Lingenfelter 1 3/4" headers and dual 3" exhaust - no cats)
8.Mistakes or any tips: Be very careful about your ultimate goal for the car. I've spent $80k figuring that out. Plan your project and build it right the first time.
I used J.E. pistons, Manley 6" H-beam rods, Crower crank, Mike Jones cam, Jesel valve train, Crower roller lifters, Bowtie block Mallory distributor.
Good luck
09-07-2003, 09:52 AM
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Re: C4's with 383's or 406CID Engines chime in. (Light84vette)
For those of you who have deleted the Smog pump and system, would it be wise to put on one muffler in place of where the stock CAT was and run straight pipes to the back? This way it would give the throaty sound and not the deep low bassy sound like it would if it were to have the mufflers in the stock location.
:confused:
Also, When going with a Big CID engine, what size exhaust system is best? WOuld 2.5inches be good enough? Or should I go with a big 3incher all the way from the collector to the rear? :confused:
:confused:
Also, When going with a Big CID engine, what size exhaust system is best? WOuld 2.5inches be good enough? Or should I go with a big 3incher all the way from the collector to the rear? :confused: